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Post by Russg on Jul 2, 2020 9:38:25 GMT
It's starting to become increasingly obvious that Paris has doubts over her fathers innocence. Of course she hasn't said as much, but her apparent indifference to any public figure who thinks her father was guilty speaks volumes.Either than, or she's more concerned with industry cred than being loyal to her father. Nah, I think you're alone on this one. I guarentee you I'm not. All you fans defending her will see her true colours in time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 9:51:45 GMT
Nah, I think you're alone on this one. I guarentee you I'm not. All you fans defending her will see her true colours in time. That's such an unnecessarily condescending tone to take. While you may not be the only one to think that, people here are defending someone who has actually had major mental issues in the past. I find it hard to believe that you would be among the first to throw the stones given that you yourself have spoken quite freely about your own issues. Trying to keep her mental helath issues at bay should not come second to keeping Michael Jackson fans on twitter or fan forums happy. It's so easy to judge people by what they tweet or don't tweet these days.
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Post by Russg on Jul 2, 2020 10:02:23 GMT
I guarentee you I'm not. All you fans defending her will see her true colours in time. That's such an unnecessarily condescending tone to take. While you may not be the only one to think that, people here are defending someone who has actually had major mental issues in the past. I find it hard to believe that you would be among the first to throw the stones given that you yourself have spoken quite freely about your own issues. Trying to keep her mental helath issues at bay should not come second to keeping Michael Jackson fans on twitter or fan forums happy. It's so easy to judge people by what they tweet or don't tweet these days. Oh, do one. This is a Michael Jackson fan forum, not a Paris forum. If this was any other member of the Jackson family you people would be raking her over the coals, but sweet little orphan Paris can do no wrong. Pull the other one. She knows exactly what she's doing and exactly the kind of reaction she's going to get. This isn't the first time she's defended celebrities who think her dad is a child molestor. She isn't a kid anymore and should be held accountable and called out on her shit, just like every other person. She deserves no special treatment, nor should she treated with kid gloves. I don't have a Twitter account, but I'm tempted to make one to give her hell!!!
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Post by Russg on Jul 2, 2020 10:04:29 GMT
And spare me the bleeding heart routine.....
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 10:18:43 GMT
That's such an unnecessarily condescending tone to take. While you may not be the only one to think that, people here are defending someone who has actually had major mental issues in the past. I find it hard to believe that you would be among the first to throw the stones given that you yourself have spoken quite freely about your own issues. Trying to keep her mental helath issues at bay should not come second to keeping Michael Jackson fans on twitter or fan forums happy. It's so easy to judge people by what they tweet or don't tweet these days. Oh, do one. This is a Michael Jackson fan forum, not a Paris forum. If this was any other member of the Jackson family you people would be raking her over the coals, but sweet little orphan Paris can do no wrong. Pull the other one. She knows exactly what she's doing and exactly the kind of reaction she's going to get. This isn't the first time she's defended celebrities who think her dad is a child molestor. She isn't a kid anymore and should be held accountable and called out on her shit, just like every other person. She deserves no special treatment, nor should she treated with kid gloves. I don't have a Twitter account, but I'm tempted to make one to give her hell!!!Do one? Man you can be such a gobshite. You turn every thread into a soap opera, even when people try to talk to you like a normal person. I find it so ironic you actually typed what I've bolded above.
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Post by WildStyle on Jul 2, 2020 10:47:01 GMT
That's such an unnecessarily condescending tone to take. While you may not be the only one to think that, people here are defending someone who has actually had major mental issues in the past. I find it hard to believe that you would be among the first to throw the stones given that you yourself have spoken quite freely about your own issues. Trying to keep her mental helath issues at bay should not come second to keeping Michael Jackson fans on twitter or fan forums happy. It's so easy to judge people by what they tweet or don't tweet these days. Oh, do one. This is a Michael Jackson fan forum, not a Paris forum. If this was any other member of the Jackson family you people would be raking her over the coals, but sweet little orphan Paris can do no wrong. Pull the other one. She knows exactly what she's doing and exactly the kind of reaction she's going to get. This isn't the first time she's defended celebrities who think her dad is a child molestor. She isn't a kid anymore and should be held accountable and called out on her shit, just like every other person. She deserves no special treatment, nor should she treated with kid gloves. I don't have a Twitter account, but I'm tempted to make one to give her hell!!!I'd honestly like to know what you'd hope to gain by doing this.
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Post by respect77 on Jul 2, 2020 10:53:15 GMT
Paris didn't know about what Sia said last year when she praised back Sia. When fans called her attention to it she was like "oh well, that's another Nikki Sixx situation then" and talked about separating artist and art, which some fans tried to twist into her talking about her father and having doubts about his innocence, which IMO is not only dishonest on fans'part, but also more harmful to MJ than anything Paris said. She clearly talked about separating art and artist in the case of people like Sixx or Sia. I disagree and I can't do it myself, but that's her opinion.
I do think she loves the attention and approval she gets from celebrities and is willing to overlook things those celebrities said about her father for that. I don't like that, but I think fans attacking her on social media is more nuts than anything she said or done.
What she went through mentally should also be taken into consideration. She was in therapy and how do we know the professional advice she got is not that she should rise above such situations for her own sanity? We are really judging her without knowing everything. I find it ironic that a man with mental health issues on his own (and with a number of past comments for that he could have been banned a long time ago) is the most judgmental of her in this thread. It's the same guy who regularly posts shady, negative threads about MJ. And he now wants to create a Twitter account just to "give Paris hell", just for not cursing out Sia. Ugh, OK.
One thing we shouldn't forget is that no matter what, if MJ was alive, he would defend his daughter tooth and nail against anyone attacking her.
We talk a lot about here how cancel culture is wrong, how people go nuts and viciously attack each other on social media for the slightest difference in opinion, yet we attack Paris because she thinks differently about how to deal with people who believe the allegations? Let me state, I disagree with how she deals with the situation and I couldn't if it was my father. However, her different stance doesn't mean she doesn't care about her father, let alone that she has doubts about his innocence or thinks he's guilty. Such quantum leaps of logic don't help MJ one bit.
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Post by russtcb on Jul 2, 2020 11:01:21 GMT
I genuinely like The Soundflowers EP, mostly because I like indie folk music. I was just pleasantly surprised that Paris Jackson happened to be good at it.
Not sure what will happen with the Twitter drama, but I see both sides of it. I understand how people could be pissed off at her but I also see how some people aren't.
The closest example I can think of is in my own personal life. I have one friend I can think of who's convinced Michael did terrible things. We're still friends but we just don't talk about Michael at all. I guess the big difference is the family thing. If he thought MY dad did those horrible things, I'm certain I wouldn't be able to let it go.
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Post by respect77 on Jul 2, 2020 11:31:37 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2020 11:34:45 GMT
Kind of sums up how a lot feel, I'd say!
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Post by WildStyle on Jul 2, 2020 12:07:13 GMT
It's exhausting enough just as an MJ fan having to fight battle after battle. Imagine how exhausting it would be to be his child. You simply have to find some kind of a way to keep your sanity.
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Post by TonyR on Jul 2, 2020 14:06:33 GMT
It's exhausting enough just as an MJ fan having to fight battle after battle. Imagine how exhausting it would be to be his child. You simply have to find some kind of a way to keep your sanity. As some people say 'quoted for emphasis'.
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Post by jaywonder on Jul 2, 2020 16:12:32 GMT
This is why I never understood fans thinking because they were fans of Michael, they had to automatically be fans of his kids and even making fan pages dedicated to them
It doesn't work that way.
While I understand wanting to keep her peace of mind and being the bigger person, you can do that while ignoring POS individuals like Ms. Lampshade who are toxic and fake. Sia not only trashed her father and entire family, shes also friends with a man who harrassed Paris on social media regularly.
I can also see and understand fans washing their hands of her going forward because she can come off as incredibly condescending even though some can come off as entitled and over the top
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Post by Snow White on Jul 2, 2020 16:39:09 GMT
I can understand receiving constantly attacks by fans and haters alike must be quite exhausting and nerve-racking which makes Paris to want to preserve her sanity but her approach on this situation in particular is highly questionable.
I'm not saying she thinks her father is guilty but I can't wrap my head around how she's willing to overlook some celebs she likes/admires think the worst of her father when there's ample evidence to discredit those allegations. Being labelled as a pedophile (pedophilia is not a crime unless they act on their thoughts) or a child abuser is the worst crime people can be accused of yet she chooses to let that go because she happens to like those people which makes her look somehow disloyal to her dad, IMO.
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Post by WildStyle on Jul 2, 2020 16:59:50 GMT
Paris didn't know about Sia's "I believe you Wade and James" bullshit post. She found out after she replied to Sia's suspicious (in my opinion) tweet to her. I think Sia may have been looking for some attention. But once again, I don't blame Paris for it.
And damn Julia... you blew me up on Twitter π
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