Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 11:54:42 GMT
Funny enough, didn't MJ and Prince become like way more accessible than ever before for these albums? Prince did loads of interviews, and did that great one with Larry King, and MJ did the Invincible signing etc.
|
|
|
|
Post by MattyJam on Oct 31, 2020 11:55:40 GMT
Why? What did he say? Traitor. "Tonight Matthew, I'm going to be... Performing, from my 1991 album Dangerous, Dangerous!" Michael Jackson, circa 2001/2002. Great reply. Can't argue with that I guess... Well, MJ was wrong about a lot of stuff towards the end. |
|
|
|
Post by MattyJam on Oct 31, 2020 11:57:31 GMT
Funny enough, didn't MJ and Prince become like way more accessible than ever before for these albums? Prince did loads of interviews, and did that great one with Larry King, and MJ did the Invincible signing etc. Prince appeared on CD:UK with Cat Deeley! I still remember her asking him "when I tell my friends who I've spoken to today, what should I call you?" and he goes "A friend." LOL classic. |
|
TonyR
The Legend Continues
Posts: 8,489 
|
Post by TonyR on Oct 31, 2020 13:08:29 GMT
Why? What did he say? Traitor. "Tonight Matthew, I'm going to be... Performing, from my 1991 album Dangerous, Dangerous!" Michael Jackson, circa 2001/2002. There was also 'Welcome to my Dangerous Tour where I'll be performing 4 songs from that 14 track album.' |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 13:09:07 GMT
"Tonight Matthew, I'm going to be... Performing, from my 1991 album Dangerous, Dangerous!" Michael Jackson, circa 2001/2002. There was also 'Welcome to my Dangerous Tour where I'll be performing 4 songs from that 14 track album.' See Bad 1987 Tour. Nothing unusual here. |
|
TonyR
The Legend Continues
Posts: 8,489
|
Post by TonyR on Oct 31, 2020 15:42:57 GMT
There was also 'Welcome to my Dangerous Tour where I'll be performing 4 songs from that 14 track album.' See Bad 1987 Tour. Nothing unusual here. I'll never forget watching Yokohama for the first time thinking 'Wait, there was a Thriller tour I knew nothing about?'. As much as we get passed off when critics/media barely reference anything post Thriller and Bad, he wasn't that great at referencing it himself. Mind you when I saw Prince he wasn't much different. I'm sure the only 90s track we got was 30 seconds of Diamonds and Pearls. |
|
|
|
Post by Russg on Oct 31, 2020 18:58:50 GMT
Both albums are too long. But I think that about several of Princes from the 90's, where as it's the only MJ album I'd say that about. I agree both are too long. I could make a 10 track Rave and a 10 track Invincible which would be much better. I think both MJ and Prince were both very poor at self-editing in the latter half of their careers. I agree with Matty that Rave is underrated though. I prefer it to most of his 90s albums except for Come and D&P. And it's much better than dross like Planet Earth, MPLSound and 20Ten. I actually voted for Rave, more because I thought no-one else would (I wasn't wrong). I think Invincible and Rave are both on a par, as in, solid albums, underrated by many in the fanbase, not either artists very best, but certainly a respectable late career addition to both artists catalogues. |
|
|
|
Post by Vega on Oct 31, 2020 19:02:43 GMT
I mean at its worst Invincible is boring... Rave is just bad.
|
|
|
|
Post by Russg on Oct 31, 2020 19:04:09 GMT
I mean at its worst Invincible is boring... at it's worst Rave is just bad. Give me an example of what you think is bad on Rave? |
|
|
|
Post by MattyJam on Oct 31, 2020 19:06:56 GMT
Both albums are too long. But I think that about several of Princes from the 90's, where as it's the only MJ album I'd say that about. I agree both are too long. I could make a 10 track Rave and a 10 track Invincible which would be much better. I think both MJ and Prince were both very poor at self-editing in the latter half of their careers. I agree with Matty that Rave is underrated though. I prefer it to most of his 90s albums except for Come and D&P. And it's much better than dross like Planet Earth, MPLSound and 20Ten. I actually voted for Rave, more because I thought no-one else would (I wasn't wrong). I think Invincible and Rave are both on a par, as in, solid albums, underrated by many in the fanbase, not either artists very best, but certainly a respectable late career addition to both artists catalogues. I love both albums as they are tbh. But then I've always loved long albums. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 19:07:53 GMT
I agree both are too long. I could make a 10 track Rave and a 10 track Invincible which would be much better. I think both MJ and Prince were both very poor at self-editing in the latter half of their careers. I agree with Matty that Rave is underrated though. I prefer it to most of his 90s albums except for Come and D&P. And it's much better than dross like Planet Earth, MPLSound and 20Ten. I actually voted for Rave, more because I thought no-one else would (I wasn't wrong). I think Invincible and Rave are both on a par, as in, solid albums, underrated by many in the fanbase, not either artists very best, but certainly a respectable late career addition to both artists catalogues. I love both albums as they are tbh. But then I've always loved long albums. There's a difference between a long album and an album that feels long though. We all love Dangerous like. |
|
|
|
Post by MattyJam on Oct 31, 2020 19:13:07 GMT
I love both albums as they are tbh. But then I've always loved long albums. There's a difference between a long album and an album that feels long though. We all love Dangerous like. You may wanna see my last post in the Main MJ section. Invincible is long, but I can listen to every song on it and enjoy it. Dangerous has too many skippers. There may be nothing on Invincible as majestic as Who Is It or that rocks as hard as Give Into Me, but there's also nothing on Invincible that sucks as hard as CLHGA and SDMW. Those are the only two MJ songs in his canon that have virtually no redeeming features whatsoever for me. I used to like Dangerous a lot more than I do right now. I kind of feel out of all of his adult solo albums, Dangerous is the one that has lost the most sheen to me. Don't get me wrong, I love much of it, but as a whole, I usually find myself only returning to the same 5-6 tracks. |
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2020 19:15:09 GMT
There's a difference between a long album and an album that feels long though. We all love Dangerous like. You may wanna see my last post in the Main MJ section. Invincible is long, but I can listen to every song on it and enjoy it. Dangerous has too many skippers. There may be nothing on Invincible as majestic as Who Is It or that rocks as hard as Give Into Me, but there's also nothing on Invincible that sucks as hard as CLHGA and SDMW. Those are the only two MJ songs in his canon that have virtually no redeeming features whatsoever for me. I used to like Dangerous a lot more than I do right now. I kind of feel out of all of his adult solo albums, Dangerous is the one that has lost the most sheen to me. Don't get me wrong, I love much of it, but as a whole, I usually find myself only returning to the same 5-6 tracks. We're just worlds apart because I can't even fathom which songs on Invincible could come even close to Who Is It, Will You Be There or even In The Closet for that matter! |
|
|
|
Post by MattyJam on Oct 31, 2020 19:19:00 GMT
You may wanna see my last post in the Main MJ section. Invincible is long, but I can listen to every song on it and enjoy it. Dangerous has too many skippers. There may be nothing on Invincible as majestic as Who Is It or that rocks as hard as Give Into Me, but there's also nothing on Invincible that sucks as hard as CLHGA and SDMW. Those are the only two MJ songs in his canon that have virtually no redeeming features whatsoever for me. I used to like Dangerous a lot more than I do right now. I kind of feel out of all of his adult solo albums, Dangerous is the one that has lost the most sheen to me. Don't get me wrong, I love much of it, but as a whole, I usually find myself only returning to the same 5-6 tracks. We're just worlds apart because I can't even fathom which songs on Invincible could come even close to Who Is It, Will You Be There or even In The Closet for that matter! Nothing on Invincible is as good as Who Is It. I agree with that. Speechless is as good as WYBT imho. YRMW and Unbreakble as good as In The Closet. And the "lesser" tracks on Invincible are all (mostly) quality. Give me stuff like Heaven Can Wait, Don't Walk Away, Heartbreaker, Privacy etc over Gone Too Soon, SDMW, CLHGA and WYWTOM any day of the week. |
|
TonyR
The Legend Continues
Posts: 8,489
|
Post by TonyR on Oct 31, 2020 19:19:14 GMT
Can I make the point that Michael's 'failed' comeback sold ten million.
|
|
