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Post by SoCav on Sept 16, 2022 8:00:47 GMT
^Oh yeah, I agree with the latter completely. I hope they'll actually be in high quality though...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2022 9:13:40 GMT
Yes and no. Of course fans cannot complain if they release leaked material, it's only logical that they would. But at the same time, any estate/organization worth their salt would try to get a sense of what has been in the hands of the fans for years already and take that into account while compiling the tracklist for a project like this - you want to make it interesting and offer an incentive to buy to the diehards in the fanbase too, after all. They can't magically make thousands of tracks appear, but there is still more than enough material out there that diehard fans have not heard (outtakes but also demos for the songs that made the album). They can easily find ways to make this project interesting to both people that have and have not heard the leaks. So if they release an album with leaked material but also some gems that we've never heard, great. If it's just the leaks (and knowing them, it may just be YouTube rips, so no quality upgrade either), then it's another lazy effort imo. I don't dispute that they could put more effort into these releases but complaining about them putting already leaked material on them is not something I'm going to do. It's unfair because those fans who have heard those tracks spoiled it for themselves. Of course, they could put more effort into it by putting various demos on the album showcasing the creative process, the development of song etc, beyond already leaked material and some never before heard ones. I think they could easily make two discs of such material, although those would probably only appeal to the hardcore fan and they don't seem to care about the hardcore fan. But here I was addressing complaints (seem them on Twitter too) like "yawn, we already know these songs, give us something new". Actually it's a good thing that even if songs like She's Trouble already leaked we will have them in better quality. I think anniversary releases are for that too: to finally officially release already leaked material etc. Prince fans already had like 90% of what was released on the SOTT SDE set and from what I could see online the vast majority were thrilled at the thought of having those songs officially released. The fans that expect 10 new never unheard or leaked tunes are only annoying themselves. I keep seeing Buffalo Bill and Chicago 1945 being thrown around, but they're both from either Victory or Bad I think? Wouldn't be surprised to see a tweet looking for Cant Get Your Weight Off Me!
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Post by nesboy43 on Sept 16, 2022 15:21:01 GMT
Awesome! Trouble has never had a high quality version besides the suuuper rough slower demo.
I want Nightline most of all.
I wonder if the somewhere in the dark reprise will be released at any point? It's only on the vinyl.
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Post by TonyR on Sept 16, 2022 16:15:31 GMT
Don't presume fans have already seeked out all these demos.
I rate myself as one of his biggest fans (over 40 years, own pretty much everything, listen to him every single day...blah, blah, blah).....must of these song titles I don't know.
Maybe this is why I love and appreciate Xscape so much. All tracks except DYKWYCA were all new to me and I love them.
Maybe it's an age thing, I've never had the time to trawl YouTube etc for these things. Too busy changing nappies and wiping arses (I don't have kids).
So all these Thriller names are exciting to me, I can't see how it should be any different. You're never going to be pleased if you've already trawled the vault yourself.
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Post by TonyR on Sept 16, 2022 16:31:28 GMT
Actually really excited for this now.
9 tracks I've probably never heard before and an original version of BTM which is a fantastic song.
Don't really care about the font anymore.
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Post by SoCav on Sept 16, 2022 16:44:49 GMT
Someone on MJJC cleverly figured out next week's track by changing a url. Excited about that one!
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Sept 16, 2022 17:27:35 GMT
Someone on MJJC cleverly figured out next week's track by changing a url. Excited about that one! Yep, can't wait to hear it.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2022 17:44:50 GMT
Excited.org/lovelystuff
Was not expecting such a curve ball. After 2 great reveals I was expecting Billie Jean Studio Demo or something
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Post by Deleted on Sept 16, 2022 17:45:18 GMT
Actually really excited for this now. 9 tracks I've probably never heard before and an original version of BTM which is a fantastic song. Don't really care about the font anymore. Font was sorted weeks ago fam.
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Post by history2010 on Sept 16, 2022 18:20:14 GMT
Next week: The Toy
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Post by aazzaabb on Sept 16, 2022 18:41:39 GMT
To be honest I’d love if these ten tracks were polished and perfected by Bruce Swedien and Quincy Jones to give them that glow and make it feel like a new album but hopefully it will be a really decent disc with demos in decent quality. I might be totally misreading your post so apologies, but are you talking about them polishing and perfecting them now? Bruce Swedien unfortunately passed away in late 2020 so that's not possible. Yes I’m aware Bruce Swedien passed away. I should have been more clear in my words. Big fan of his work on HIStory especially, and well every MJ album really. Can’t wait for Sonic Fantasy to be on streaming platforms after it’s done with making the rounds at film festivals and it’s limited theatrical run. 😎👍🏼
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Post by aazzaabb on Sept 16, 2022 18:44:50 GMT
Definitely a nice curve ball with The Toy.
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Post by simon on Sept 16, 2022 20:02:06 GMT
I don't want to whine about the leaked material being released, no question, these songs deserve a proper release, but it would be annoying and disappointing if the complete 2 CD only consisted of leaked stuff from Youtube and there weren't 2 or 3 songs that we fans still have have not heard
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Sept 16, 2022 20:03:30 GMT
Definitely a nice curve ball with The Toy. Always been strange to me that MJ's last song dates back so far.
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Post by aazzaabb on Sept 16, 2022 20:06:00 GMT
I don't want to whine about the leaked material being released, no question, these songs deserve a proper release, but it would be annoying and disappointing if the complete 2 CD only consisted of leaked stuff from Youtube and there weren't 2 or 3 songs that we fans still have have not heard Hello and welcome to the place. 😎👍🏼
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