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Post by mjjfan810 on Mar 16, 2018 9:23:33 GMT
Have you ever been really into an artist or band and then really been turned off by the way they evolved musically?
I used to be a massive fan of Janet. I would buy all her albums the day of release and was really invested in her as an artist, but she totally regressed musically and ran out of anything interesting to say after All For You.
Another artist I have been rooting for is TTD, who unfortunately just doesn't produce music to the same quality as his 80s/90s work. I don't feel as if he's produced anything interesting since Wildcard.
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Post by TonyR on Mar 16, 2018 9:39:00 GMT
Have you ever been really into an artist or band and then really been turned off by the way they evolved musically? I used to be a massive fan of Janet. I would buy all her albums the day of release and was really invested in her as an artist, but she totally regressed musically and ran out of anything interesting to say after All For You. Another artist I have been rooting for is TTD, who unfortunately just doesn't produce music to the same quality as his 80s/90s work. I don't feel as if he's produced anything interesting since Wildcard. Same two for me. Plus Oasis. Only one amazing song after their first 2 albums (The Importance of Being Idle). Kaiser Chiefs - amazing debut, couple of good on 2nd and then that was it. Terrible now. |
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Post by bedroom on Mar 16, 2018 9:50:41 GMT
Björk after Vespertine
Tori Amos after To Venus and Back
Madonna after Confessions
Stevie Wonder after Hotter than July
and I agree with Janet. I didn't care for anything after Velvet Rope. I do like Feedback and All Nite (Don't Stop) though. So she does have a few great tracks after that.
And also the reverse is true for some artists. It gets boring when they do not evolve at all. I really like Enya but she's been releasing the same album over and over again since the 80s.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2018 9:52:44 GMT
Again the truth hurts, TTD disappeared up his own ass a long time ago. I listen to all his new shit, but I just don't get any of it he really wanders off into these strange tangents. I don't even like Wildcard much after Oh Divina (Gold) and Designated Fool (Classic Sananda style wryness). This man is potentially a Prince like genius, but he just needs to focus and stop believing every word he pukes up is going to set the world of music on fire.
Macy Gray was another - her first album "On life and how it is" was perfect, the next album Id was on the level of "What the f**k is this shit".
Most of the classic rappers went off after the early 90s, Ice T had a run of Gold up to OG, but lost it with Home Invasion, none of Snoops shit after Doggystyle was that great, and the Second Biggie album feel well short of Ready to Die (Although the brotha was dead, I will give him a pass)
Madonna has pretty much let me down since Music, American life was shit and her latest albums are patchy, but all have their moments except MDNA, I honestly thought that was it for her, but Rebel Heart is probably her best since Music (Which is flawless in my eyes).
I know its mean, but Patience by George Michael is NOT a good album, Freeek! and Shoot the Dog are great, but both are really 2002 jams anyway, the rest is dull dull dull. George had some good stuff, some great stuff, but he did tread a bit of water too. George I loved you, but you had some off days sweetie. Still later Jams like Flawless (Go to the city) are just great.
And Britney, after her 2005 remix album, she just feel off, nothing recaptured the early energy of songs like Crazy, and One More Time along with the later erotic masterpieces, I'm a slave 4 U and Toxic. Womaniser was decent, but yeah she is gone. I didn't even listen to unity.
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Post by bedroom on Mar 16, 2018 10:07:35 GMT
^^ Gotta agree with Britney. I don't know when that was but after Circus ( was it the title of the album), it has not been the same for her. I dont think she wants to be in the business anymore so she is just doing the bare minimum on stage and in the studio IMO
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Post by Russg on Mar 16, 2018 11:30:17 GMT
Surprised no-one has mentioned MJ, with the amount of fans who felt let down with Invincible.
Mariah Carey used to put out quality albums, but her last few have been woeful, similar to Janet, she has nothing interesting to say anymore.
My biggest letdown was Eminem and every album he's released since Encore. Every time he puts out a new record it's supposedly "a return to form," but the truth is, he's been treading water for at least a decade. Even he's acknowledged in interviews that some of his recent work has been underpar, but that doesn't seem to have made him produce anything worthwhile since.
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Post by HIStoric on Mar 16, 2018 12:03:54 GMT
And Britney, after her 2005 remix album, she just feel off, nothing recaptured the early energy of songs like Crazy, and One More Time along with the later erotic masterpieces, I'm a slave 4 U and Toxic. Womaniser was decent, but yeah she is gone. I didn't even listen to unity. While I agree in general, she still had a number of great pop songs after 2005. Gimme More, Womaniser, Circus, If U Seek Amy and Work Bitch are cool. |
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Post by TonyR on Mar 16, 2018 22:45:54 GMT
God Mariah Carey, yes.
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Post by MattyJam on Mar 17, 2018 18:03:31 GMT
Interesting thread. I have to be honest, I felt a little "let down" by Axl Rose with this whole GNR reunion. I really loved the Chinese Democracy album, and I respected Axl for following his artistic muse in spite of massive amounts of resistance from GNR purists and rock media, all clamouring for a reunion with Slash. Axl maintained for years and years that this would never happen and no eight figure sum would change his mind. But it did. It wasn't so much the decision to reunite itself that bothered me (I'm a fan of the original lineup as much as anyone else), but it signalled the final death knell of Axl Rose the artist - the man driven by art instead of commerce. He seems completely uninterested in creating new music or moving Guns N Roses forward as a band, complacent in becoming a nostalgia act, putting in as little work as possible for the biggest financial rewards. I suppose I can't blame him for this and I can't say I wouldn't feel tempted to do the same in his position, but it's hardly something to admire in a man. russtcb - penny for your thoughts? |
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Mar 18, 2018 22:37:28 GMT
Interesting thread. I have to be honest, I felt a little "let down" by Axl Rose with this whole GNR reunion. I really loved the Chinese Democracy album, and I respected Axl for following his artistic muse in spite of massive amounts of resistance from GNR purists and rock media, all clamouring for a reunion with Slash. Axl maintained for years and years that this would never happen and no eight figure sum would change his mind. But it did. It wasn't so much the decision to reunite itself that bothered me (I'm a fan of the original lineup as much as anyone else), but it signalled the final death knell of Axl Rose the artist - the man driven by art instead of commerce. He seems completely uninterested in creating new music or moving Guns N Roses forward as a band, complacent in becoming a nostalgia act, putting in as little work as possible for the biggest financial rewards. I suppose I can't blame him for this and I can't say I wouldn't feel tempted to do the same in his position, but it's hardly something to admire in a man. russtcb - penny for your thoughts? The reunion definitely wasn't about money for him, if that was his motivation then we'd have seen a reunion a long time ago. Also, he presented a follow up to Chinese to the record label and they refused to release it, and he was working on new music before the reunion, once that happened plans changed, and he has already said that he has played slash and duff music he has been working on and they liked it. |
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Post by MattyJam on Mar 19, 2018 7:30:12 GMT
Interesting thread. I have to be honest, I felt a little "let down" by Axl Rose with this whole GNR reunion. I really loved the Chinese Democracy album, and I respected Axl for following his artistic muse in spite of massive amounts of resistance from GNR purists and rock media, all clamouring for a reunion with Slash. Axl maintained for years and years that this would never happen and no eight figure sum would change his mind. But it did. It wasn't so much the decision to reunite itself that bothered me (I'm a fan of the original lineup as much as anyone else), but it signalled the final death knell of Axl Rose the artist - the man driven by art instead of commerce. He seems completely uninterested in creating new music or moving Guns N Roses forward as a band, complacent in becoming a nostalgia act, putting in as little work as possible for the biggest financial rewards. I suppose I can't blame him for this and I can't say I wouldn't feel tempted to do the same in his position, but it's hardly something to admire in a man. russtcb - penny for your thoughts? The reunion definitely wasn't about money for him, if that was his motivation then we'd have seen a reunion a long time ago. Also, he presented a follow up to Chinese to the record label and they refused to release it, and he was working on new music before the reunion, once that happened plans changed, and he has already said that he has played slash and duff music he has been working on and they liked it. How much of what you said is fan conjecture? There's no proof that Axl presented a completed follow up to Chinese Democracy to a record label, that's just fan speculation. I think you're naïve if you believe that money wasn't a motivating factor in his decision to do the reunion. NuGNR had exhausted the market and by 2014, were playing to half-empty arenas and low-tier Vegas residencies. If Axl truly had a desire to create and release new music, why on earth has it taken him another decade to follow up an album which itself was 17 years in the making? |
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Mar 19, 2018 14:31:07 GMT
The reunion definitely wasn't about money for him, if that was his motivation then we'd have seen a reunion a long time ago. Also, he presented a follow up to Chinese to the record label and they refused to release it, and he was working on new music before the reunion, once that happened plans changed, and he has already said that he has played slash and duff music he has been working on and they liked it. How much of what you said is fan conjecture? There's no proof that Axl presented a completed follow up to Chinese Democracy to a record label, that's just fan speculation. I think you're naïve if you believe that money wasn't a motivating factor in his decision to do the reunion. NuGNR had exhausted the market and by 2014, were playing to half-empty arenas and low-tier Vegas residencies. If Axl truly had a desire to create and release new music, why on earth has it taken him another decade to follow up an album which itself was 17 years in the making? It came from people who are on the mygnr forum. They have a few people who can get this kinda info. Whether it's true or not I don't know, I have seen it talked about quite a few times though. It is a fact he has been working on music though, whether it has been released or not. When the reunion was announced plans changed. The playing music for slash and duff part came from Axl himself. |
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Post by Snow White on Mar 19, 2018 16:00:59 GMT
I'd say Black Eyed Peas. I liked their Elephunk and Monkey Business albums but I couldn't stand The E.N.D. and I'll never forgive them for murdering Time of My Life.
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Post by HIStoric on Mar 19, 2018 23:12:10 GMT
I'd say Black Eyed Peas. I liked their Elephunk and Monkey Business albums but I couldn't stand The E.N.D. and I'll never forgive them for murdering Time of My Life. Meet Me Halfway is a jam though... but it was Grand Theft Auto that got me into that song  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2018 10:30:04 GMT
And Britney, after her 2005 remix album, she just feel off, nothing recaptured the early energy of songs like Crazy, and One More Time along with the later erotic masterpieces, I'm a slave 4 U and Toxic. Womaniser was decent, but yeah she is gone. I didn't even listen to unity. While I agree in general, she still had a number of great pop songs after 2005. Gimme More, Womaniser, Circus, If U Seek Amy and Work Bitch are cool. I just love "Work Bitch", I forgot about that song, its Britney paying homage to RuPaul!  |
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