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Post by respect77 on Jun 25, 2018 3:46:26 GMT
Rumours abound that he had incest with Rebbie and Latoya both when they were 11 or 12 years old and budding.Β Also I meant he was shagging many of the groupies who came to see Jackie, Tito, Jermaine and later on Marlon. There are stories some of the groupies were as young as 12 or 13 and this did not matter to Joe, a young girl could have fully adult breasts at 12 and whereas such behaviour today would be considered sick and illegal, in the 70s it was seen as normal.
Most of the groupies chasing rock stars in the 60s/70s were teenagers and some were known to be as young as 12 or 13, jailbait was everywhere and many stars were probably blackmailed by these girls or pimps and most of the time it was forgotten until the late 1980s when abuse finally became a no no and paedophilia really became shocking. There was a famous magazine called "Star" back in 1973 aimed at young groupies and disgusting volume lasted only 6 issues, spoke about how to score stars, get money, get layed and many tales of women as young as 14 telling them about how Mick Jagger gave them cunnalingus or Jimi Hendrix's big mamba gave them an orgasm. Mostly about white rock and roll acts, it was obvious many of them would go after the J5 given the stereotypes of black genitals and sexual prowess.
Joe himself had a prodigious sexual appetite, giving Katherine 9 kids and at least a few more to other women including Jo Vonnie Jackson his daughter with an un named white woman. There is also the story of 18 year old Eurasian Gina Sprague being beaten up by Katherine and Randy and Janet in 1980. Joe was nearly divorced at least twice by Katherine, but she always went back. So the idea Joe may have had sex with his elder daughters and test drove groupies in the 1970s seems plausible. One tale even suggests that he bonked all the women who signed to his record label - Ivory Tower Records and one of the female singers was told to take Michael's virginity and she failed after Michael started crying and read her the bible.
If anything it shows us that sexual promiscuity and half assed parenting is not a post millenial construct as people in the groovy late 60s and 70s could also be terrible parents. I mean who could condone their 12 year to 16 year old daughter off having sex with a 45 year old man so she could get to Jermaine. The rumors come from Latoya, like I said. She was the one who claimed Joseph molested her and Rebbie.It was when she talked all kind of nonsense about the family while she was under Jack Gordon's thumb. Remember she also said MJ was a pedophile. So how are you going to act like she's trustworthy? Rebbie denied it and I think Latoya retracted the crap she claimed under Gordon`s influence since. Joe did sleep with groupies, but I have never heard any claim that the groupies he slept with were underage. Joe is many things why he can legitimately be criticized, but there is no need to make up extra BS about him. And how are you going to say that because Joe cheated on Katherine with adult women it is plausible he was also a pedophile and committed incest? How does one follow from the other? It doesn't make any sense. You sound like those people who say nonsense like homosexuality = pedophilia.
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Post by respect77 on Jun 25, 2018 4:09:01 GMT
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Post by respect77 on Jun 25, 2018 4:13:28 GMT
And Joh'Voinne uses it as another opportunity to rub the word "daddy" in her siblings' face. (Notice the smiley she put after the word in the first photo - sorry, can't embed.) And then she wonders why they want nothing to do with her. www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10214839918583215
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Post by Snow White on Jun 25, 2018 5:12:18 GMT
She begs for sympathy and acceptance from Katherine's children and she's shown once again she has none of those things for them. Isn't she a living contradiction? I thought Joe made that tweet while resting, whoever manages his account should stop tweeting while he's in hospital. And Joh'Voinne uses it as another opportunity to rub the word "daddy" in her siblings' face. (Notice the smiley she put after the word in the first photo - sorry, can't embed.) And then she wonders why they want nothing to do with her.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2018 11:37:22 GMT
You sound like those people who say nonsense like homosexuality = pedophilia. Seriously? WTF? 1. I am just repeating what I have heard, I am considering myself kinder to Joe than most of the mess spoken about him here. 2. I am gay, so why would I be saying homophobic shit like that?
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Post by respect77 on Jun 25, 2018 12:12:29 GMT
You sound like those people who say nonsense like homosexuality = pedophilia. Seriously? WTF? 2. I am gay, so why would I be saying homophobic shit like that?Try to understand what I actually wrote. You wrote BS like Joe cheating on Katherine with adult women makes it plausible that he also molested children and committed incest. It's just as nonsensical as the fundamentalist evangelical preacher I saw yesterday in a documentary who said men who have sex with men are capable of anything, inluding child molestation. Your argument was just as stupid and nonsensical as this preacher's.
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Post by Angel of Light on Jun 27, 2018 0:36:49 GMT
I have no kind words to say about the man. If he is suffering, that is a shame. But I don't have a kind word for him. He is who he is. That never changed. People live, age, and die. That will not change my opinion on him.
I do, however, feel sorry if Michael's children are affected by this. If he passes soon, this would be their first loss since their dad, won't it?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2018 5:15:20 GMT
2. I am gay, so why would I be saying homophobic shit like that? Try to understand what I actually wrote. You wrote BS like Joe cheating on Katherine with adult women makes it plausible that he also molested children and committed incest. It's just as nonsensical as the fundamentalist evangelical preacher I saw yesterday in a documentary who said men who have sex with men are capable of anything, inluding child molestation. Your argument was just as stupid and nonsensical as this preacher's. And I am getting this from our arrogant angry systa, who speaks buffoonish shit on a daily basis.
Shoo fly! Don't interract with me again, go complain to your angry systas back on Lipstick alley.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2018 16:38:23 GMT
I log online for the first time in a while to see the usual shit from the usual suspect.
New thread created on the main page
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Post by TonyR on Jun 27, 2018 16:44:21 GMT
I log online for the first time in a while to see the usual shit from the usual suspect. New thread created on the main page Keyzer Soze?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2018 2:28:22 GMT
Joe Jackson has passed away.
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Post by funksoldier on Jun 28, 2018 16:35:35 GMT
So he died. He wasn't really a good father from what we know. He was abusive to his children and I believe this was one of the many things that broke Michael. However, I wish him nothing ill, it's not in my nature. I always try to believe that there is still good in anyone, even in people like Joe. I hope he didn't have much pain and that he felt loved before he died.
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Post by respect77 on Jul 29, 2018 17:36:35 GMT
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Post by MattyJam on Jul 29, 2018 18:50:48 GMT
Joe looks like Michael so much in this pic.
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Post by respect77 on Jul 29, 2018 19:23:04 GMT
Yes. Joseph was surprisingly handsome as a young man.
I wonder if his bashing of MJ's looks had to do with some self-hate issues on Joe's part. MJ got his nose clearly from his father and Joe had the nerve to mock him for his nose and say he didn't look like his child. SMH.
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