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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2019 23:29:11 GMT
IMO there ARE truly transgender people for whom transitioning is probably the best solution. But they may actually be rare. And due to the ideology and propaganda people are far too easily being led to that solution as if it is the only solution. And many of them are probably just confused teenagers or simply gay people. Or teenagers who do it because it is trendy. It's once again like swallowing the Red Pill - this time about how irresponsible and cowardly certain professions have become (doctors, therapists) to not raise their voice against this nonsense or even enabling it. Hormone treatment and sex change surgery should absolutely be prohibited under the age of 18.
When I was around 5-7 I wanted to be a boy. I even had a boy name for myself and wanted to pee standing up. LOL. I never liked girly clothes and preferred toys for boys and I played with boys or other tomboys. My parents were thankfully very cool about it. If she wants boy toys then we will buy her boy toys. If she doesn't want to wear girlie clothes she doesn't have to wear girlie clothes. I have a class photo from second grade and I just noticed I was the only girl on it wearing trousers instead of a skirt. I had short hair and looked like a boy. My teacher at the time jokingly called me a boy name. Although my parents did not call me the boy name I chose for myself. LOL. But otherwise they did not stress about it. They just laughed about it.
Guess what? I grew out of it.
Although I am still on the "tomboy" side, but I didn't become trans. I am not even a lesbian. If my parents had been some crazy progressives trying to act cool and all "enlightened" they might have driven me to a direction that wasn't actually my path. Just let kids be and don't fill their head with nonsense and take care that the Internet doesn't fill their head with nonsense either. I think it is very rare that someone will actually end up really trans. Your childhood is the perfect example of why it is not only legitimate - but essential to question and challenge current transgender ideology. Can you imagine if you had parents that reaffirmed your child 'fantasy' (for lack of a better word) of being a boy? This was brilliant. Walt Heyer had gender re-assignment surgery and lived as a woman for 8 years but has since detransitioned. He has a website sexchangeregret.com/ whereby trans people who regret their transition receive help/support for detransitioning. He says: I have not heard anyone call it child abuse before. I have not viewed it through that lens because the intentions of the parents are 'good' - albeit deeply flawed. Parents are doing what society is telling them is the right thing to do for their 'trans' child. I could agree that transgender ideology is abusing children. Isn't it unsurprising that detransitioned people have 0 voice in the mainstream? For a critical analysis and discussion about transgernderism, who could be more qualified to talk about these issues than transgender and detransitioned people? That would be a much more balanced approach. But no - all we get are the success stories because we have an agenda to maintain. Abso fucking lutely.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 0:46:37 GMT
This perfect attempt at making MJ the poster the child for their agenda.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 2:09:19 GMT
Whenever I am searching for people or organisations on any topic - does anyone else check to see if they pass the idiot test by searching for whether they have ever commented on Michael Jackson?
In this case I was reviewing commentary surrounding Mario Lopez. I came across this comment from someone I don't recognise and considered retweeting it:
But before I can 'endorse' their tweet - I put him through my 'rigorous' idiot test: Twitter handle + Michael Jackson and/or Leaving Neverland LOL.
Right enough - he is an idiot. A hypocrite too considering he dogs leftists but subscribes to the same "believe all allegations" presumption of guilt BS they do.
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Post by Snow White on Aug 1, 2019 2:24:30 GMT
I'm empathetic towards transgender people if it is how they decided to live but no one should make the decision for them. If they're truly transgender, they should receive extensive psychotherapy to be sure if they want to transition. Stories about individuals regretting their transition makes me think children are too young to make such life-changing, irreversible procedures.
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Post by Snow White on Aug 1, 2019 3:01:56 GMT
I agree with Candace and Mario, children are way too young to decide what they want in their lives, even more 3 year olds to decide about their gender, They're in development and that's why they have their parents to guide them. Children are also too young to get them in hormone blockers. I hope Angelina's or Charlize's children don't get screwed for life if they regret living as transgender since they're in the public eye for inheriting their mothers' fame.
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Post by respect77 on Aug 1, 2019 3:26:34 GMT
IMO there ARE truly transgender people for whom transitioning is probably the best solution. But they may actually be rare. And due to the ideology and propaganda people are far too easily being led to that solution as if it is the only solution. And many of them are probably just confused teenagers or simply gay people. Or teenagers who do it because it is trendy. It's once again like swallowing the Red Pill - this time about how irresponsible and cowardly certain professions have become (doctors, therapists) to not raise their voice against this nonsense or even enabling it. Hormone treatment and sex change surgery should absolutely be prohibited under the age of 18.
When I was around 5-7 I wanted to be a boy. I even had a boy name for myself and wanted to pee standing up. LOL. I never liked girly clothes and preferred toys for boys and I played with boys or other tomboys. My parents were thankfully very cool about it. If she wants boy toys then we will buy her boy toys. If she doesn't want to wear girlie clothes she doesn't have to wear girlie clothes. I have a class photo from second grade and I just noticed I was the only girl on it wearing trousers instead of a skirt. I had short hair and looked like a boy. My teacher at the time jokingly called me a boy name. Although my parents did not call me the boy name I chose for myself. LOL. But otherwise they did not stress about it. They just laughed about it.
Guess what? I grew out of it.
Although I am still on the "tomboy" side, but I didn't become trans. I am not even a lesbian. If my parents had been some crazy progressives trying to act cool and all "enlightened" they might have driven me to a direction that wasn't actually my path. Just let kids be and don't fill their head with nonsense and take care that the Internet doesn't fill their head with nonsense either. I think it is very rare that someone will actually end up really trans. Your childhood is the perfect example of why it is not only legitimate - but essential to question and challenge current transgender ideology. Can you imagine if you had parents that reaffirmed your child 'fantasy' (for lack of a better word) of being a boy? This was brilliant. Walt Heyer had gender re-assignment surgery and lived as a woman for 8 years but has since detransitioned. He has a website sexchangeregret.com/ whereby trans people who regret their transition receive help/support for detransitioning. He says: I have not heard anyone call it child abuse before. I have not viewed it through that lens because the intentions of the parents are 'good' - albeit deeply flawed. Parents are doing what society is telling them is the right thing to do for their 'trans' child. I could agree that transgender ideology is abusing children. Isn't it unsurprising that detransitioned people have 0 voice in the mainstream? For a critical analysis and discussion about transgernderism, who could be more qualified to talk about these issues than transgender and detransitioned people? That would be a much more balanced approach. But no - all we get are the success stories because we have an agenda to maintain. Abso fucking lutely.
"I think it’s important for us to realise that there is actually nothing good about affirming a young boy, 4 years old like my grandma did me. The moment you affirm a child like my granma did putting me in a purple chiffon dress and telling me how cute I was, how wonderful I looked, is the very same moment that you are affirming that young person, you are telling them there’s something wrong with them. You are not right. That, is child abuse. We need to begin calling it what it is."
I agree totally. It's an absolutely ridiculous concept that kids at 3-4-5 are "trans".
A lot of those videos on Benjamin Boyce's YT channel mention how the number of supposed transpeople blew up since it is kind of trendy to be trans. How it was actually a very rare condition. Now you have kids talk about how four of their friends are "trans" and whatnot. While I know that more accaptance from society has the effect of bringing out more closeted people, but it is definitely not just that. There is definitely a "trendy" factor in this, especially with teenagers. A lot of them "realize" they are trans on Tumlr and those kind of sites where they have this kind of influence. Teenagers always wanted to rebel against their parents and want to look special, I wonder if this is this generation's "rebellion" and looking special.
In case of very young children, 3-5, when parents call them "trans" just because the kids are going through a phase, that too is the media influence plus I wonder if a part of these parents are kind of narcissistic. Having a "special" child brings them attention. It's a world where everyone wants to be special and also everyone wants to be a "victim". Identity politics brought it with itself that you need to be in some "oppressed" group to be cool. If you are just some straight, white, cis-gender person that is uncool. So claim some obscure gender or claim that you are trans. Being a victim of something is extremely rewarding these days.
In one of those Boyce videos there was an interesting example of how this mass psychosis works. It was about how anorexia was initially a very American condition. They didn't have any similar condition in many other cultures. They brought the example of Hong-Kong. There were women with eating disorders, but that was a completely different condition - it didn't have anything to do with body image issues, like the American variant. But once the media in Hong Kong started to talk about the American variant, the number of American type anorexiacs blew up. And there were other similar examples which points to a lot of these things actually being psychological and very much a mass psychosis kind of thing. So of course, the question is there if this is the kind of phenomenon we witness with this sudden rise in the number of supposedly transgender people?
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Post by respect77 on Aug 1, 2019 3:37:23 GMT
Whenever I am searching for people or organisations on any topic - does anyone else check to see if they pass the idiot test by searching for whether they have ever commented on Michael Jackson? In this case I was reviewing commentary surrounding Mario Lopez. I came across this comment from someone I don't recognise and considered retweeting it: But before I can 'endorse' their tweet - I put him through my 'rigorous' idiot test: Twitter handle + Michael Jackson and/or Leaving Neverland LOL. Right enough - he is an idiot. A hypocrite too considering he dogs leftists but subscribes to the same "believe all allegations" presumption of guilt BS they do.
Yeah, Ben Shapiro too, I think said something against MJ. I don't listen to him. So of course, they have hypocrites too.
BTW, Mario Lopez backtracked and apologized for his "ignorance and insensitivity". SMH. I wish some of these celebs had a backbone and stood their ground. We really need to stand up to the regressive mob.
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Post by jaywonder on Aug 1, 2019 7:39:40 GMT
Whenever I am searching for people or organisations on any topic - does anyone else check to see if they pass the idiot test by searching for whether they have ever commented on Michael Jackson? In this case I was reviewing commentary surrounding Mario Lopez. I came across this comment from someone I don't recognise and considered retweeting it: But before I can 'endorse' their tweet - I put him through my 'rigorous' idiot test: Twitter handle + Michael Jackson and/or Leaving Neverland LOL. Right enough - he is an idiot. A hypocrite too considering he dogs leftists but subscribes to the same "believe all allegations" presumption of guilt BS they do. Yeah, it's best to ignore Matt Walsh. He's a moronic bigot POS who people keep giving a platform.
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Post by pg13 on Aug 1, 2019 8:04:02 GMT
It's possible that the over the top responses to any hint of transsexual issues in young children is rooted in fear. Fear of suicide, that is. And fear greatly exaggerates any number of things whilst creating the demands for people in general to toe the line. uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1LS39KBut fear can easily lead to fascist thought and suppression of free speech/expression as already outlined.
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Post by respect77 on Aug 1, 2019 9:41:05 GMT
It's possible that the over the top responses to any hint of transsexual issues in young children is rooted in fear. Fear of suicide, that is. And fear greatly exaggerates any number of things whilst creating the demands for people in general to toe the line. uk.mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUKKCN1LS39KBut fear can easily lead to fascist thought and suppression of free speech/expression as already outlined. That's a good point. In fact, when people raise the madness of treating kids with puberty blockers and hormones and sex surgery, and the long term health effects this will most probably have on them (IMO it's medical malpractice on a mass scale), the usual answer to that is "it's better than them commit suicide". So basically they shut up concerned doctors and scientists with the suicide threat. I would say this is emotional blackmail. I don't think there's any evidence of trans kids committing suicide in masses if they can't transition before the age of 18. If some of them are suicidal it might have to do with other issues like depression. They would perhaps need a therapist rather than hormones. Hormones actually may fuck up their brains even more. One of those detransitioned girls in the videos talked about how she was in a constant state of anger while she was treated with testosterone and she felt worse than before because of that. You don't fuck with hormones! You just don't. Let alone in the case of children! And if a kid is suicidal there's no proof that transitioning would solve that problem. The whole thing is a mess, a lot of it is based on propaganda and not science and evidence.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 10:55:39 GMT
Yeah, Ben Shapiro too, I think said something against MJ. I don't listen to him. So of course, they have hypocrites too.
BTW, Mario Lopez backtracked and apologized for his "ignorance and insensitivity". SMH. I wish some of these celebs had a backbone and stood their ground. We really need to stand up to the regressive mob.
Yes Ben Shapiro dropped the principles he was taught at law school for MJ - his rant was ridiculous. I did see that Lopez had apologised. Many people who have heterodox perspectives are mobbed. I can understand why he apologised (fear of being even more ostracized and the repercussions to his career and reputation) - but things will not change if they don't get a back bone as you say. We do need to stand up against this mob - the more voices that do it - the more people will observe and get the courage to do them same.
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Post by respect77 on Aug 1, 2019 16:58:27 GMT
This was brilliant. Walt Heyer had gender re-assignment surgery and lived as a woman for 8 years but has since detransitioned. He has a website sexchangeregret.com/ whereby trans people who regret their transition receive help/support for detransitioning.
Everyone should watch this video who trashed Lopez yesterday.
I also read this on that website.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2019 23:31:25 GMT
That person's story is harrowing.
When I see all of these maniacs advocating for transgenderism, at all costs, no matter what, do not question it, not even regarding 3 year old kids - and then I read stories like this... Sigh. They have no idea how dangerous their ideology is.
Here is another story:
So in 5 months - they were told by a psychiatrist that they were born in the wrong body (an unproven, non scientific theory), to getting sex change surgery. This sex change was so traumatising, that they had a pychotic break and were diagnosed with schizophrenia 1 year and 8 months after surgery.
Another:
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Post by Snow White on Aug 3, 2019 23:43:04 GMT
What a shame Mario Lopez didn't have the guts to stick with his previous rightful statement but that's political correctness madness for you.
As for the haunting testimonies respect and Vex posted, it leaves me besides shaken, thinking you can't even trust psychologists and psychiatrists either if some of them are reckless and negligent wrongly diagnosis patients with problems they don't even have.
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Post by pg13 on Aug 4, 2019 21:23:33 GMT
What a shame Mario Lopez didn't have the guts to stick with his previous rightful statement but that's political correctness madness for you. As for the haunting testimonies respect and Vex posted, it leaves me besides shaken, thinking you can't even trust psychologists and psychiatrists either if some of them are reckless and negligent wrongly diagnosis patients with problems they don't even have. Some psychologists and psychiatrists have encouraged patients to believe they were sexually abused. Usually by the father. One case I'm aware of saw a female patient suing over this very thing. So this issue regarding transgenderism doesn't surprise me.
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