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Post by WildStyle on Jul 27, 2020 18:07:44 GMT
To be fair, Paris has said that Rolling Stone interview wasn't exactly accurately represented. I would not be taking any quotes from it as gospel.
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Post by Russg on Jul 27, 2020 18:21:28 GMT
They’re his children. Their race or whether biological is 100% irrelevant to me. That’s my input. Innuendo, that’s what should really matter, at the end of the day. If Michael said that all three children were his (biologically) —— as their actual father —— and, Paris says that she is not only Michael’s daughter, but chooses to “identify” herself as what their father said her and her brothers were, then, I will gladly take BOTH father AND daughter at their word....as I strongly feel that they told THE TRUTH, as they felt it was to them.Now this is precisely the kind of ultra-woke twaddle that makes me despair for the future of mankind. You do know you could could replace the words "Michael" and "Paris" with "Wade" and you would have exactly the kind of pseudo, PC babble that he speaks in. Wade "identifies" as a victim of MJ, and that was "his truth." Paris is either bio related or not. Those are the facts and it is irrelevant how she chooses to identify and what she believes her truth to be.
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Post by Russg on Jul 27, 2020 18:27:34 GMT
To be frank, I think part of the reason why some fans dislike Paris is because they don't think she's his biological child. It's says a lot about how messed up human thinking can be. Not that humans having messed up thinking is news to anyone. I say Paris specifically because Prince is just too nice and easy going for anybody to ever dislike. If this was true, then fans would dislike Prince also, as many don't believe MJ was biologically his father either. The fact is, nobody gives Prince a hard time because he comes across as likeable and a decent human being. Paris comes off badly which is why fans give her a hard time. It has nothing to do with people not believing she is biologically related to MJ.
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Post by respect77 on Jul 27, 2020 18:31:07 GMT
To be frank, I think part of the reason why some fans dislike Paris is because they don't think she's his biological child. It's says a lot about how messed up human thinking can be. Not that humans having messed up thinking is news to anyone. I say Paris specifically because Prince is just too nice and easy going for anybody to ever dislike. If this was true, then fans would dislike Prince also, as many don't believe MJ was biologically his father either. The fact is, nobody gives Prince a hard time because he comes across as likeable and a decent human being. Paris comes off badly which is why fans give her a hard time. It has nothing to do with people not believing she is biologically related to MJ. To be sure, Paris gets the most hate, but all three of them get racist abuse on places like LSA.
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Post by Russg on Jul 27, 2020 18:32:46 GMT
If this was true, then fans would dislike Prince also, as many don't believe MJ was biologically his father either. The fact is, nobody gives Prince a hard time because he comes across as likeable and a decent human being. Paris comes off badly which is why fans give her a hard time. It has nothing to do with people not believing she is biologically related to MJ. To be sure, Paris gets the most hate, but all three of them get racist abuse on places like LSA. Is there a single celeb who doesn't get racist abuse on LSA?
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Post by respect77 on Jul 27, 2020 18:35:11 GMT
To be sure, Paris gets the most hate, but all three of them get racist abuse on places like LSA. Is there a single celeb who doesn't get racist abuse on LSA? Dark skinned black people if they don't date interracially.
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Post by Russg on Jul 27, 2020 18:37:33 GMT
Is there a single celeb who doesn't get racist abuse on LSA? Dark skinned black people if they don't date interracially. I stopped posting on LSA a year or so ago around the time the MJ board turned to shit when LN aired. That place is a racist cesspit.
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Post by butterflies on Jul 27, 2020 18:37:51 GMT
What is LSA?
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Post by Russg on Jul 27, 2020 18:39:23 GMT
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Post by butterflies on Jul 27, 2020 18:51:42 GMT
I thought mj was liked there, I’ve read older posts before, is it cause of leaving neverland they’re like that now? (Wahhhh)
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Post by respect77 on Jul 27, 2020 18:54:45 GMT
I thought mj was liked there, I’ve read older posts before, is it cause of leaving neverland they’re like that now? (Wahhhh) It's not just LN, it's been going down for a couple of years now. Not just the MJ forum there. I have not been a member then but I heard they actually were pretty vile to MJ before his death as well. Then he died and all of a sudden everyone was on the "we love MJ" bandwagon (that's also when he got a separate forum there), but there's a lot of trolling too which eroded the fandom there. And generally speaking, identity politics, a preoccupation with race and looking at everything through race took over the whole forum (LSA generally, not the MJ forum, although of course it has its effects on the MJ forum as well).
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Post by butterflies on Jul 27, 2020 19:01:46 GMT
I thought mj was liked there, I’ve read older posts before, is it cause of leaving neverland they’re like that now? (Wahhhh) It's not just LN, it's been going down for a couple of years now. Not just the MJ forum there. I have not been a member then but I heard they actually were pretty vile to MJ before his death as well. Then he died and all of a sudden everyone was on the "we love MJ" bandwagon (that's also when he got a separate forum there), but there's a lot of trolling too which eroded the fandom there. And generally speaking, identity politics, a preoccupation with race and looking at everything through race took over the whole forum. Aw that sucks, sounds like a bunch of phonies there
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Post by ggbbggbb4455445544 on Jul 27, 2020 20:43:17 GMT
They’re his children. Their race or whether biological is 100% irrelevant to me. That’s my input. Innuendo, that’s what should really matter, at the end of the day. If Michael said that all three children were his (biologically) —— as their actual father —— and, Paris says that she is not only Michael’s daughter, but chooses to “identify” herself as what their father said her and her brothers were, then, I will gladly take BOTH father AND daughter at their word....as I strongly feel that they told THE TRUTH, as they felt it was to them.Now, this is precisely the kind of ultra-“woke” twaddle that makes me despair for the future of mankind. You do know you could could replace the words “Michael” and “Paris” with “Wade” and you would have exactly the kind of pseudo, “P.C.” babble that he speaks in. Wade “identifies” as a “victim” of MJ, and that was “his truth.” Paris is either bio related or not. Those are the facts and it is irrelevant how she chooses to identify and what she believes her truth to be. RussG, you do make and have a valid point, here, regarding what is believed to be/have been “true,” VS. what is THE absolute, actual 100% TRUTH. Yes, there is a major difference between them, and neither can I stand this so-called “P.C.”/“woke” business, any more so than you can.
But, like I already have said, Michael’s and Paris’ words* regarding his children’s biological parentage and ethnic background (*outward physical appearance and others’ public perceptions of both the father AND the children he helped to genetically reproduce, notwithstanding) —— in my honest opinion —— seem believable and credible; There are mixed-race children who are the offspring of one visibly Black/African-descended parent and one non-African parent (be he or she of Asian/Middle-Eastern/South-Asian, White European/Caucasian, Native-American, Oceanian, or any other ethnicity of non-African descent), who don’t look outwardly, obviously and visibly “Black.”
And, not all Black people look like the assumed stereotype of what most people think either a “Black” or a “mixed” person is “supposed to” look like, physically and “phenotypically” speaking.
But, PLEASE, RussG, don’t you ever compare and equate what the two latest false accusers in that exploitative, downright LYING piece-of-trash of a so-called “documentary” film, “Leaving Neverland,” had said —— (accusations lifted almost verbatim from a purely fictional book that came out in the 1990’s, written by “journalist” Victor Gutiérrez, thus taking advantage of the fact that Michael Jackson hasn’t been with us in over a full decade, now, as that alone no longer puts him in ANY position to be able to defend himself, so greedy people can once again go after his Estate’s money) —— with what members of a family actually know to be true, regarding their background and heritage.
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Post by Michaels Lover on Jul 28, 2020 2:25:38 GMT
At the end of the day y'all are guessing and I would be too. I really don't know. Yes, Prince and Paris look strictly white. On the other hand... Prince has vitiligo and I've seen a picture of Thriller era Mike put through one of those girl filters and it looked exactly like Paris. Then you have Bigi who resembled MJ as a kid and now has his same body type. So, yeah... I don't know. And it doesn't really matter either. I will say I think some fans are obsessed with it because they want a piece of Michael to cling on to now that he's gone. It's kind of messed up butit's almost like they want another Michael to transfer their love to. That's why fans are so obsessed with Bigi. Because he resembled Mike as a child. I can only imagine if he had a kid that was walking around today looking like 1978 Michael. They wouldn't leave that poor kid alone. Yeah, Bigi looked so much like Michael when he was younger. People who can't see this are blind
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Post by mjjfan810 on Jul 28, 2020 7:52:31 GMT
The only people who have the right to pass judgement on MJ's parenting skills are the kids themselves. It's not for his fans to say what is right or wrong in family dynamics we actually know next to nothing about.
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