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Post by respect77 on Sept 29, 2017 13:26:40 GMT
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Post by speedd3mon on Sept 29, 2017 13:42:02 GMT
2 out of 10 remixes are good. And those ones are destined to reach your ears so don't touch remixes.
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Post by aazzaabb on Sept 29, 2017 13:49:02 GMT
Just heard the new Thriller remix. Honest opinion? It's awful. Maybe someone could share it on here? I've not figured out how to do so.
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Post by MattyJam on Sept 29, 2017 14:02:09 GMT
Have I missed something here? I thought "Scream" was just a compilation album with a bonus mash-up at the end? Is it a remix project?
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Post by TonyR on Sept 29, 2017 14:27:41 GMT
Have I missed something here? I thought "Scream" was just a compilation album with a bonus mash-up at the end? Is it a remix project? Yeah, confused.....
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Post by dancingmjsdream on Sept 29, 2017 14:38:00 GMT
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Post by smoothcriminal1997 on Sept 29, 2017 14:53:18 GMT
That remix is fucking awful. Wow. Guess I'll be skipping this release.
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Post by respect77 on Sept 29, 2017 15:23:08 GMT
Have I missed something here? I thought "Scream" was just a compilation album with a bonus mash-up at the end? Is it a remix project? No it isn't. It's a standalone thing, not on the album. As usual fans just make a big hoopla about nothing, boycotting the album for something that isn't even on it (you can tell I am freaking done with the fandom - all the stupid and ignorant comments on FB, God...) The album is now on Spotify.
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Post by aazzaabb on Sept 29, 2017 15:58:24 GMT
I haven't read online comments but I'm just being honest. The Thriller remix is awful. I love the Scream album mash-up, but the Thriller thing is just loud noise. Honest opinion over here.
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Post by respect77 on Sept 29, 2017 16:22:43 GMT
I haven't read online comments but I'm just being honest. The Thriller remix is awful. I love the Scream album mash-up, but the Thriller thing is just loud noise. Honest opinion over here. And it is not even on the album, so who cares? It's just a remix, but people overreact as usual. And people are bashing the album for something that isn't even on it. And you can tell most are just knee-jerk anti-Sony/Estate comments as they aren't even remotely true. Case in point. One complains that songs that MJ "didn't release himself" (LOL) get released. The other complains we don't get unheard songs instead. So which one is it? These are contradictory demands. Others claim it is not MJ. Others just go for the stupid "boycott Sony, they just want money" madness. Etc. Just stupid after supid. I am sorry, but this is not constructive criticism. You can tell some just bash it for the sake of bashing without even knowing what the Hell they are talking about.
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Post by aazzaabb on Sept 29, 2017 16:49:31 GMT
^^Well YOU care, quite clearly. I care also. We are lifelong fans, we are the ones who will always care. I don't know, I'm just beginning to feel their beginning to take too many liberties with his music. I mean what is the point of this remix? I'm not here to stir and divide, but a line has to be drawn somewhere, doesn't it? And I'll be honest, as a lifelong fan it's beginning to upset me a little.
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Post by TonyR on Sept 29, 2017 17:36:38 GMT
If the remix isn't actually released then it's no different to a million fan made remixes out there.
And the worst ever remixes were released when MJ was alive (Thriller 25 and BOTDF and HIStory B sides).
I think people have to undetstand that it's now either rlelease nothing and risk MJs popularity dwindling over time or keep trying to milk the cask cow which at least keeps him alive in memory and charts.
I'd still rather the Scream project with lots of lesser known stuff than another Number Ones style collection of usual Thriller and Bad tracks.
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Post by aazzaabb on Sept 29, 2017 18:30:15 GMT
If the remix isn't actually released then it's no different to a million fan made remixes out there. And the worst ever remixes were released when MJ was alive (Thriller 25 and BOTDF and HIStory B sides). I think people have to undetstand that it's now either rlelease nothing and risk MJs popularity dwindling over time or keep trying to milk the cask cow which at least keeps him alive in memory and charts. I'd still rather the Scream project with lots of lesser known stuff than another Number Ones style collection of usual Thriller and Bad tracks. Except that this is on the official Vevo channel that millions of people visit. And a lot of those fan remixes are far superior and more representative to who he was as an artist. Nick* comes to mind. That's how it should be done. The remix is utter crap and on his official channel is basically all I'm saying. I agree with you about the Scream album, but there does seem to be this thing of "get new fans by any means possible" like some sort of religious cult. The remixes have not been good. How many people are here because of the Pitbull remix?! I am buying Scream and supporting it, but there are fans on the other side of the fence who have more than a few fair points. I care an awful lot about this mans legacy I guess. And standards have to be maintained -I'm not sure they are. Things should be kept tasteful and not cheapened.
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Post by respect77 on Sept 29, 2017 18:38:15 GMT
^^Well YOU care, quite clearly. I care also. We are lifelong fans, we are the ones who will always care. I don't know, I'm just beginning to feel their beginning to take too many liberties with his music. I mean what is the point of this remix? I'm not here to stir and divide, but a line has to be drawn somewhere, doesn't it? And I'll be honest, as a lifelong fan it's beginning to upset me a little. It's not "taking liberties with his music". It is a remix released on YouTube. Big deal. Remixes are done all the time. Both fan made and official ones. Some good, some bad. No one claims these to be MJ's original music, so I don't get what is there to be upset about? I don't like it but I don't like most remixes. And like Tony said, it is not like horrible remixes weren't released during MJ's lifetime. Thriller 25, anyone? BOTDF, anyone? Remember The Time, In The Closet etc. remixes that featured on the single CDs, anyone? Some good, some bad. Did that kill or cheapen his legacy like some are claiming now? As long as they don't claim this to be MJ's original music, I don't care if someone made a remix of Thriller. I won't listen to it, but I also won't make a big hoopla about it. Is it a cheap way to try to reach current audiences? Maybe. But so were the single remixes back in the day when single CDs were still a thing. So was Thriller 25. So was the second half of BOTDF. ETA: I also think it is a very different thing to remix a known MJ song of that everyone knows the original and to "contemporarize" demos of which the world would hear in this new "contemporarized" version first and this version would be cemented in their mind as "MJs music" even though it is rather someone else's interpretation of his music. I consider these very different things. I don't think a remix of a known song can do harm to the original. At worst people will say how bad the remix is and it is the remixer who will get flak for it, not MJ. It won't affect the original that everyone knows.
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Post by MattyJam on Sept 29, 2017 18:49:09 GMT
Just saw a commercial for Scream in the ad break for Corrie. Yes, I watch Corrie.
Was very surreal hearing Dangerous on the telly unexpectedly.
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