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Post by Invincible on Jul 27, 2017 0:49:26 GMT
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Post by Snow White on Jul 27, 2017 1:22:28 GMT
Howard Weitzman acknoledged Jones was owed 1 or 2 millions, he should have been given just that. Since Michael passed, he was already payed 18 millions which is quite generous earning for royalties.
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Post by respect77 on Jul 27, 2017 1:54:49 GMT
I don't know the case enough to agree or disagree but reading the articles of his testimony he did come across as massively entitled and greedy.
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Post by Snow White on Jul 27, 2017 2:04:30 GMT
^^That's where I'm basing my disagreement. He was asking a ridiculously high sum of money from projects out of the contract he signed with Michael.
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Post by morinen on Jul 27, 2017 3:40:29 GMT
He won on a vagueness in a poorly written contact. To be fair, literal meaning of the word "video show" in the contract supports the jury's verdict that "This Is It" is a video show, hence, he is entitled to profit share, whether this kind of video shows were intended at the time of drafting the contract or not. "Video show" is a very broad term, whoever represented MJ at the time, should have negotiated it better.
What I'm curious about and haven't seen the media reporting on is what (if anything) the jury decided on Quincy's first right to remix the music. I'd love him to win on that point and stop the estate from "reimagining" Michael's music, at least up to Bad.
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Post by respect77 on Jul 27, 2017 4:34:08 GMT
What I'm curious about and haven't seen the media reporting on is what (if anything) the jury decided on Quincy's first right to remix the music. I'd love him to win on that point and stop the estate from "reimagining" Michael's music, at least up to Bad. Well, this horror was Quincy's doing, so his involvement is no guarantee for quality control...
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Post by Russg on Jul 27, 2017 5:25:56 GMT
Quincy deserves every penny. I'd rather him profit massively off MJ than the two Johns for example, who obtained MJs estate through questionable means.
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Post by morinen on Jul 27, 2017 5:34:19 GMT
Well, this horror was Quincy's doing, so his involvement is no guarantee for quality control... Haha, fair enough. I just hope if he's the one who should be offered first, then no one will be offered. Although, considering his age, it would be a short term remedy.
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Post by HIStoric on Jul 27, 2017 9:17:44 GMT
I trust in the juries decision. I've followed the case very, very lightly and I've always remained on the fence. Good on Quincy though.
I can imagine the court fees being a bitch though.
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Post by Invincible on Jul 27, 2017 11:22:04 GMT
What I'm curious about and haven't seen the media reporting on is what (if anything) the jury decided on Quincy's first right to remix the music. I'd love him to win on that point and stop the estate from "reimagining" Michael's music, at least up to Bad. Well, this horror was Quincy's doing, so his involvement is no guarantee for quality control... This is worse than any Pitbull remix
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Post by SoCav on Jul 28, 2017 16:30:58 GMT
^Lol. The production of the instrumental is not that bad imo - albeit overly slick - but the vocals are obviously atrocious. Remixing classics like this is a bad idea anyway. Wasn't he involved in that utterly horrible WATW for Haiti remix as well?
I think a lot of Quincy's work is pretty good and he produced some solid stuff in addition to OTW, Thriller and Bad during the time span he worked with MJ (Sounds... and Stuff Like That! and especially The Dude are good albums, Give Me The Night by George Benson and Every Home Should Have One by Patti Austin are too). He contributed a lot to the sound of R&B/pop during that time. However, I don't think I like any of his work post-Bad. Back on the Block is, for instance, a crap album imo.
Given the poor quality of his recent output I would not be too interested in his remixes of MJ's work. He has also made some disparaging comments regarding MJ as an artist and does not seem to hold him in the highest regard - I would not be sure that he would treat the work with the respect it deserves at this point. If they'd give him a Bad era demo of an unreleased track, I can't see him going: "alright, let's do everything we can to make this sound the way Michael intended to at the time." I could be wrong, but I'd imagine he'd want to put his own stamp on it.
With that said, I do think collaborators like Quincy should be involved with the Estate as consultants and be approached to work on projects related to the work they did with MJ (e.g. Bad 25). Instead of only focusing on circus shows and horribly contemporized outtakes, they should have allotted time to reaching out to these old collaborators after Michael's passing. Rod Temperton is already gone now, and Bruce Swedien and Quincy Jones are very old. None of these guys are getting any younger and it is of massive importance to collect everything they have and know about the work they did with MJ before it's too late.
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Post by MattyJam on Aug 2, 2017 17:45:20 GMT
www.bizjournals.com/public/index.php/losangeles/news/2017/07/31/michael-jackson-estate-may-appeal-quincy-jones.htmlMichael Jackson estate may appeal Quincy Jones award Last week, a jury awarded music producer Quincy Jones $9.4 million in unpaid royalties from the estate of Michael Jackson. But the case may not be over yet. Howard Weitzman, a lawyer who represented Jackson’s heirs at the trial, is exploring “post-trial options to overturn the verdict,” including an appeal, he told the New York Post. The dispute centers on contracts dating back to 1978 and 1985. In a lawsuit seeking $30 million, Jones argued those agreements granted him royalties on songs he produced for the King of Pop on albums including “Off the Wall,” “Thriller” and “Bad,” as well as the first right to remix the master recordings, but that Jones was granted neither when they were used in the concert documentary “This Is It” released shortly after Jackson’s death as well as two Cirque du Soleil shows. The jury agreed, though it awarded Jones less than a third of what he was asking. That was still too much, Weitzman told the Post. “We probably wouldn’t challenge an award up to $2.5 million,” he said. In comment both after the verdict and again to the New York Post, the lawyer appears especially bothered by Jones’ spinning the award as a win for artists’ rights. "This lawsuit was never about Michael. It was about protecting the integrity of the work we all did in the recording studio and the legacy of what we created,” Jones said in a statement after the verdict. “I view it not only as a victory for myself personally, but for artists’ rights overall.” “The jury’s verdict was wrong,” Weitzman countered to the Post. “The real artist is Michael Jackson, and it is his money.”
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Post by respect77 on Aug 3, 2017 17:38:56 GMT
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Post by danileevanbuskirk on Aug 6, 2017 10:53:29 GMT
Happy Q was paid but the amount IMHO was insulting. Highly. He should have been awarded a lot more.
Dani
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Post by respect77 on Aug 6, 2017 12:02:50 GMT
Happy Q was paid but the amount IMHO was insulting. Highly. He should have been awarded a lot more. Dani Insulting? How?
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