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Post by aazzaabb on Aug 24, 2023 21:39:28 GMT
It's definitely been tampered with by the leaker, has it? There's so much noise and distortion that it makes it hard to listen to. You’re nothing more than an expert! Sick of you bloody experts! The lot of you!
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Post by aazzaabb on Aug 24, 2023 21:41:25 GMT
Get Your Weight Off Of Me: "You got a lesson to learn, You get respect which you earn". Privacy: "Now there's a lesson to learn, respect's not given, it's earned". Lyrics recycled almost verbatim. I wonder if they already knew GYWOOM wouldn't make the album when they were writing Privacy, so they had no problem recycling those lyrics? Or were they just super lazy? "Man in the Music" by Joseph Vogel says both songs were written in the first few months of 2000. MJ has quite a history of recycling lyrics, you know. E.g. a verse in HIStory was recycled for WMCIG. Years ago, I'd along with a few others identified approximately 200 such examples. Another example in CGYWOOM is this line " My thoughts of you still remain" is similar to the one in CLHGA "Your thoughts of me remain". I think it's quite normal for things to be repeated. After all, Nature does! You trying to be some sort of expert?! Yeah that’s right! I called you a goddamn expert!
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Aug 24, 2023 21:41:59 GMT
It's definitely been tampered with by the leaker, has it? There's so much noise and distortion that it makes it hard to listen to. Yeah, it's been trimmed down and the sound quality has been made pretty bad.
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Post by pg13 on Aug 24, 2023 21:45:01 GMT
MJ has quite a history of recycling lyrics, you know. E.g. a verse in HIStory was recycled for WMCIG. Years ago, I'd along with a few others identified approximately 200 such examples. Another example in CGYWOOM is this line " My thoughts of you still remain" is similar to the one in CLHGA "Your thoughts of me remain". I think it's quite normal for things to be repeated. After all, Nature does! You trying to be some sort of expert?! Yeah that’s right! I called you a goddamn expert! Howling! 🤣
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Post by pg13 on Aug 24, 2023 21:48:17 GMT
Well, I missed this yesterday as my dad was in hospital. Nice surprise to wake up to. I actually quite like it. It's nothing earth-shattering, nor does it need to be. Just a fun, early-00s bop. Best bit is the pre-chorus "I've got a message for you, you know I'll never stop crying baby...". Very catchy. In all honesty, I wouldn't have begrudged this taking up a slot on the album over the likes of Privacy or Don't Walk Away. Although I have a soft spot for Don’t Walk Away and Privacy has grown on me since Innuendo made a decent case for it ages back -and actually some of your posts made me re-evaluate the entire album- CGYWOOM might have added some more consistency. 🤩 I always liked DWA. I think it's those vocals and the pain in his voice as he sings "How can I begin again, how am i to understand...all my dreams been broken". Damn.
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Post by aazzaabb on Aug 24, 2023 21:51:31 GMT
You trying to be some sort of expert?! Yeah that’s right! I called you a goddamn expert! Howling! 🤣 My apologies for the offensive language. Don’t know what came over me! 😭🤣😂😭
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Post by aazzaabb on Aug 24, 2023 21:53:02 GMT
Although I have a soft spot for Don’t Walk Away and Privacy has grown on me since Innuendo made a decent case for it ages back -and actually some of your posts made me re-evaluate the entire album- CGYWOOM might have added some more consistency. 🤩 I always liked DWA. I think it's those vocals and the pain in his voice as he sings "How can I begin again, how am i to understand...all my dreams been broken". Damn. Yeah definitely. Love that line you quoted also. You can really feel him on that. Damn indeed.
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Post by aazzaabb on Aug 24, 2023 22:05:35 GMT
As for the song, I hear hints of Unbreakable, Invincible and Privacy. But more especially Invincible and Privacy. It doesn't sound as strong as the first three on the album to me, but it does underscore my feeling MJ didn't have great creative chemistry with Jerkins. That's odd because they certainly appeared to have excellent chemistry as friends during this time! The one MJ/Jerkins song I keep comings back to consistently is YRMW. That's classic yet updated. Should have made more like that. CGYWOOM is one I can take or leave. It wouldn't have added anything massively new to Invincible - just more of the same. Michael sounds fantastic though. Those vocals deserve a much better song. Yeah I -begrudgingly- agree with this summation. I actually think what got me initially excited about it was that the hints of Unbreakable/Invincible/Privacy felt like a collection of Easter eggs and the track felt like an amalgamation of that entire sound. And then of course it’s nice to hear unheard MJ vocals. I maintain that I like it for what it is. A fun outtake.
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Post by aazzaabb on Aug 24, 2023 22:08:18 GMT
And as Respect pointed out, it’s got that "new" song effect.
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Post by pg13 on Aug 24, 2023 22:09:50 GMT
As for the song, I hear hints of Unbreakable, Invincible and Privacy. But more especially Invincible and Privacy. It doesn't sound as strong as the first three on the album to me, but it does underscore my feeling MJ didn't have great creative chemistry with Jerkins. That's odd because they certainly appeared to have excellent chemistry as friends during this time! The one MJ/Jerkins song I keep comings back to consistently is YRMW. That's classic yet updated. Should have made more like that. CGYWOOM is one I can take or leave. It wouldn't have added anything massively new to Invincible - just more of the same. Michael sounds fantastic though. Those vocals deserve a much better song. Yeah I -begrudgingly- agree with this summation. I actually think what got me initially excited about it was that the hints of Unbreakable/Invincible/Privacy felt like a collection of Easter eggs and the track felt like an amalgamation of that entire sound. And then of course it’s nice to hear unheard MJ vocals. I maintain that I like it for what it is. A fun outtake. It IS fun and interesting to hear the song! Much better than some other news in the MJ world the last few days, so I welcome it. Its a pity it didn't excite me the way songs pre-Invincible did. The album doesn't although I do like several songs off it a lot. I still believe live music instrumentation on Invincible would have made a huge difference. That goes for CGYWOOM too.
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Aug 24, 2023 22:26:12 GMT
Don't Walk Away is one I enjoy quite a bit.
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Post by aazzaabb on Aug 24, 2023 22:28:32 GMT
Yeah I -begrudgingly- agree with this summation. I actually think what got me initially excited about it was that the hints of Unbreakable/Invincible/Privacy felt like a collection of Easter eggs and the track felt like an amalgamation of that entire sound. And then of course it’s nice to hear unheard MJ vocals. I maintain that I like it for what it is. A fun outtake. It IS fun and interesting to hear the song! Much better than some other news in the MJ world the last few days, so I welcome it. Its a pity it didn't excite me the way songs pre-Invincible did. The album doesn't although I do like several songs off it a lot. I still believe live music instrumentation on Invincible would have made a huge difference. That goes for CGYWOOM too.A hundred percent agree! And I’m a synth fan and all but following HIStory also, the production at times feels a little too generic. Live instruments would have given the tracks more soul, life and just lifted everything up a few notches. It does have its moments, as you mentioned, the vocals on the underrated Don’t Walk Away etc. Any yes, this track was a nice little break from the latest news and happenings fo sho.
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Post by aazzaabb on Aug 24, 2023 22:30:27 GMT
Don't Walk Away is one I enjoy quite a bit. It’s been one of favourites since day one also.
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Post by amaya on Aug 24, 2023 22:53:25 GMT
It's definitely been tampered with by the leaker, has it? There's so much noise and distortion that it makes it hard to listen to. Yeah, it's been trimmed down and the sound quality has been made pretty bad. Yeah people on MJJC were saying it's been messed with. Hopefully we get the full HQ version down the line.
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Post by MattyJam on Aug 25, 2023 1:25:14 GMT
Needs more Fats.
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