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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2023 10:16:24 GMT
Apparently Dan Wooten has done a turn around too and said he no longer believes Leaving Neverland or so I read on Twitter this morning (I refuse to say X). You know me, I'm usually peace love and harmony (except for the morons that slag off Heaven Can wait), but there's really no redeeming that guy. Always loathed him and heard so many nasty things about his conduct and behaviour over the years, much of which was spewed out of his own obnoxious piehole. The MJ stuff was just the tip of the iceberg with him. If Dan Wooten and Megyn Kelly want to defend MJ then that’s perfectly okay with me. If the Russell Brand debacle becomes a watershed moment and if the injustices of Leaving Neverland is used by way of example then that can only be a good thing and hinder a forthcoming Leaving Neverland 2 as well as reopen the whole conversation about MJ and how he’s been so unfairly treated. MJ fans need to look at the bigger picture and let go of their personal grievances with the likes of Wooten. If one doesn’t like his voice, attitude, something they heard about him fair enough but don’t let that get in the way of progress. Wooten has been open about the fact that he was duped by LN. His honesty in this instance is something that might possibly prompt another journalist(s) to re-examine, come clean and take a long hard look at themselves. We need to support that not shoot ourselves in the foot. Self sabotage is more frustrating than anything these guys said in the past. Nah hes a piece of shit Aaron, his opinion of Michael Jackson is the least of my interest in what kind of cunt he is. The likes of Dan Wooton, former executive director of The Sun siding with MJ will do nothing to change any narrative. I know very little about that Kelly woman, and dont care to, but my comment was more directed at people who think anyone who praises MJ deserves a sainthood.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2023 10:17:45 GMT
Now if HITLER changed his mind about LN, then that's something we could reconsider....
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Post by Russg on Sept 20, 2023 15:05:42 GMT
Not quite sure why he's using the defense of being targeted for "exposing" big pharma and the like. I think he has an over-inflated sense of his own importance. The only thing he ever exposed was his miniscule knob.
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Post by TonyR on Sept 20, 2023 15:49:25 GMT
That's her pass into heaven sorted so. Surely that can wait.
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Post by Snow White on Sept 20, 2023 17:29:29 GMT
I don't always keep up with Megyn Kelly's podcast but she has spoken against LN and in favor of Michael before, it's not all the sudden like that piece of shit Dan Wotton.
I remember John Ziegler, the guy who first interviewed Brandi in the beginning of the LN debacle commenting Megyn thanked him for reporting the facts, so she has never been ”snookered" by that child pornography propaganda. If Wotton hadn't been accused himself, I bet he'd still spew shit about Mike.
In regards of what she said about RB, I don't think she's labelling as him as guilty but I agree with her it was wrong of him and creepy (to me) to get involved with a 16 year old, in most cases 16 year olds are highly impressionable and easy to manipulate even if it's not prosecutable since it's legal in the UK.
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Post by aazzaabb on Sept 20, 2023 17:46:10 GMT
If Dan Wooten and Megyn Kelly want to defend MJ then that’s perfectly okay with me. If the Russell Brand debacle becomes a watershed moment and if the injustices of Leaving Neverland is used by way of example then that can only be a good thing and hinder a forthcoming Leaving Neverland 2 as well as reopen the whole conversation about MJ and how he’s been so unfairly treated. MJ fans need to look at the bigger picture and let go of their personal grievances with the likes of Wooten. If one doesn’t like his voice, attitude, something they heard about him fair enough but don’t let that get in the way of progress. Wooten has been open about the fact that he was duped by LN. His honesty in this instance is something that might possibly prompt another journalist(s) to re-examine, come clean and take a long hard look at themselves. We need to support that not shoot ourselves in the foot. Self sabotage is more frustrating than anything these guys said in the past. Nah hes a piece of shit Aaron, his opinion of Michael Jackson is the least of my interest in what kind of cunt he is. The likes of Dan Wooton, former executive director of The Sun siding with MJ will do nothing to change any narrative. I know very little about that Kelly woman, and dont care to, but my comment was more directed at people who think anyone who praises MJ deserves a sainthood. Sainthood ha. I’m not sure anyone has called for anyone who praises MJ to be made a saint. His opinion on Michael Jackson is the ONLY point of interest about him that interests me. Can you enlighten me as to why he’s such a piece of shit? And if 10 more pieces of shit come forward tomorrow and admit they got the Michael Jackson narrative wrong are we to also disregard all of them because they’re pieces of shit too? Surely anyone in the media who’s speaking on MJ in a positive light can only be a good thing? I really don’t know anymore. I mean I take your point Nidge but I’m not bothered one way or another if Dan Wooten is a piece of shit. I’m supportive of the media speaking the truth about MJ. Peace, love and harmony brother. ✌🏻
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Post by aazzaabb on Sept 20, 2023 17:54:14 GMT
That's her pass into heaven sorted so. Surely that can wait. I love how you guys have managed to work Invincible into a Russell Brand thread! 🤦🏻♂️😂
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Post by TonyR on Sept 20, 2023 17:55:00 GMT
You're both right.
He's a cunt but if a cunt like him who was so vociferous in his belief in MJs guilt can change his mind (if true) then it means anyone can.
I don't care whether it was a shit that started the avalanche as long as others follow.
I mean I'll never like the fella but rather he was in the tent pissing out than vice versa.
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Post by TonyR on Sept 20, 2023 17:58:50 GMT
I love how you guys have managed to work Invincible into a Russell Brand thread! 🤦🏻♂️😂 Tricky to do. He thought he was invincible but had his privacy threatened. I'm not gonna cry but if his fans dont walk away i'll be speechless, whatever happens it'll be interesting.
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Post by aazzaabb on Sept 20, 2023 18:02:35 GMT
You're both right. He's a cunt but if a cunt like him who was so vociferous in his belief in MJs guilt can change his mind (if true) then it means anyone can. I don't care whether it was a shit that started the avalanche as long as others follow. I mean I'll never like the fella but rather he was in the tent pissing out than vice versa. I honestly don’t have an opinion on him one way or another. I know I’m supposed to revile him and want him to die a horrible death, but I really haven’t given him that much thought.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2023 19:52:10 GMT
You're both right. He's a cunt but if a cunt like him who was so vociferous in his belief in MJs guilt can change his mind (if true) then it means anyone can. I don't care whether it was a shit that started the avalanche as long as others follow. I mean I'll never like the fella but rather he was in the tent pissing out than vice versa. I honestly don’t have an opinion on him one way or another. I know I’m supposed to revile him and want him to die a horrible death, but I really haven’t given him that much thought. If you don't, then I envy you. He is most definitely not known for his opinion on Michael Jackson though, that I can assure you. He's also literally exactly what MJ wrote Tabloid Junkie about. I'm not having a go, but I actually do think the likes of him suddenly changing his mind publicly about MJ can be damaging. Look at the reaction that Brand is getting having been endorsed by the likes of Alex Jones, Carlson Tucker and Andrew Tate. It's very much "well of course they would support him". And I for one think this too, actually. Their support is doing him NO favours. Because they are all nutjobs. You also need to remember that Dan Wooton played a very large part in the exposure of Leaving Neverland in the UK. He was actually quite aggressive and had a bit of a personal campaign. I only think he has changed his mind because the only way he will get longevity out of his career by taking "controversial" stances. I do get what you're saying, but people with little to no dignity/IQ or anything more than manufactured empathy suddenly turning on the accusers aren't worthless to me. It will push the issue further and further into the "conspiracy theory" realm by the mainstream.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2023 19:58:19 GMT
Nah hes a piece of shit Aaron, his opinion of Michael Jackson is the least of my interest in what kind of cunt he is. The likes of Dan Wooton, former executive director of The Sun siding with MJ will do nothing to change any narrative. I know very little about that Kelly woman, and dont care to, but my comment was more directed at people who think anyone who praises MJ deserves a sainthood. Sainthood ha. I’m not sure anyone has called for anyone who praises MJ to be made a saint. His opinion on Michael Jackson is the ONLY point of interest about him that interests me. Can you enlighten me as to why he’s such a piece of shit? And if 10 more pieces of shit come forward tomorrow and admit they got the Michael Jackson narrative wrong are we to also disregard all of them because they’re pieces of shit too? Surely anyone in the media who’s speaking on MJ in a positive light can only be a good thing? I really don’t know anymore. I mean I take your point Nidge but I’m not bothered one way or another if Dan Wooten is a piece of shit. I’m supportive of the media speaking the truth about MJ. Peace, love and harmony brother. ✌🏻 Yes is my answer. If I don't value someone's opinion, that won't change if it comes to Michael Jackson. I don't consider anyone on the planet a piece of shit because of what they think of Michael Jackson.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2023 19:59:43 GMT
I don't always keep up with Megyn Kelly's podcast but she has spoken against LN and in favor of Michael before, it's not all the sudden like that piece of shit Dan Wotton. I remember John Ziegler, the guy who first interviewed Brandi in the beginning of the LN debacle commenting Megyn thanked him for reporting the facts, so she has never been ”snookered" by that child pornography propaganda. If Wotton hadn't been accused himself, I bet he'd still spew shit about Mike.In regards of what she said about RB, I don't think she's labelling as him as guilty but I agree with her it was wrong of him and creepy (to me) to get involved with a 16 year old, in most cases 16 year olds are highly impressionable and easy to manipulate even if it's not prosecutable since it's legal in the UK. This is exactly what I think. 100% calculated.
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Post by Snow White on Sept 20, 2023 21:55:22 GMT
Sainthood ha. I’m not sure anyone has called for anyone who praises MJ to be made a saint. His opinion on Michael Jackson is the ONLY point of interest about him that interests me. Can you enlighten me as to why he’s such a piece of shit? And if 10 more pieces of shit come forward tomorrow and admit they got the Michael Jackson narrative wrong are we to also disregard all of them because they’re pieces of shit too? Surely anyone in the media who’s speaking on MJ in a positive light can only be a good thing? I really don’t know anymore. I mean I take your point Nidge but I’m not bothered one way or another if Dan Wooten is a piece of shit. I’m supportive of the media speaking the truth about MJ. Peace, love and harmony brother. ✌🏻 Yes is my answer. If I don't value someone's opinion, that won't change if it comes to Michael Jackson. I don't consider anyone on the planet a piece of shit because of what they think of Michael Jackson. Even if some of those opinions contributed to the massive bullying and dehumanization Michael had to endure for who he was?
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Post by aazzaabb on Sept 20, 2023 22:01:55 GMT
Sainthood ha. I’m not sure anyone has called for anyone who praises MJ to be made a saint. His opinion on Michael Jackson is the ONLY point of interest about him that interests me. Can you enlighten me as to why he’s such a piece of shit? And if 10 more pieces of shit come forward tomorrow and admit they got the Michael Jackson narrative wrong are we to also disregard all of them because they’re pieces of shit too? Surely anyone in the media who’s speaking on MJ in a positive light can only be a good thing? I really don’t know anymore. I mean I take your point Nidge but I’m not bothered one way or another if Dan Wooten is a piece of shit. I’m supportive of the media speaking the truth about MJ. Peace, love and harmony brother. ✌🏻 Yes is my answer. If I don't value someone's opinion, that won't change if it comes to Michael Jackson. I don't consider anyone on the planet a piece of shit because of what they think of Michael Jackson. So if say Nancy Grace, Diane Sawyer, Diane Diamond, Oprah et al come out and say “I got it wrong about MJ!” It’s irrelevant because they’re pieces of shit anyway? There’s no value in what they’re saying because you don’t value their opinions in general and their u turn on MJ is irrelevant and not a positive move forward in terms of public perception and rewriting the wrong? We’ll have to disagree on this one. For me there’s value in that. I don’t like any of these people or value their opinion on anything but I do place value on them saying they were wrong regarding MJ/LN.
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