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Post by invinciblegal on Oct 30, 2023 12:04:53 GMT
Apologies if this thread is triggering to some, but has anyone else considered that MJs death could've been a suicide?
At the end of the day, MJ easily could've cranked up the dial on the propofol drip when Murray was out of the room, knowing full well what would happen.
The timing of his death has always bothered me, occurring as it did literally 10 days before the start of his big comeback. It always looked to me as if he didn't have it in him to do it anymore and felt trapped.
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Post by MattyJam on Oct 30, 2023 12:18:43 GMT
I don't believe he would've done that to his children. There is nothing to suggest he was suicidal, although obviously people don't go around wearing a badge announcing that to the world.
I suppose it's possible, but I don't believe it personally. Even if he did feel trapped by the shows, would he really attempt suicide over it? Plenty of people are unhappy with their jobs and don't go killing themselves to get out of it.
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Oct 30, 2023 12:46:13 GMT
Apologies if this thread is triggering to some, but has anyone else considered that MJs death could've been a suicide? At the end of the day, MJ easily could've cranked up the dial on the propofol drip when Murray was out of the room, knowing full well what would happen. The timing of his death has always bothered me, occurring as it did literally 10 days before the start of his big comeback. It always looked to me as if he didn't have it in him to do it anymore and felt trapped. No, Murray left him on a drip and went to talk on the phone for a long time. There wasn't a dial on the drip, it was just slowly dripping from the bottle into the bag. If I'm wrong someone correct me.
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Post by butterflies2 on Oct 30, 2023 14:03:45 GMT
I don’t believe he did, though it felt like it at times
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Post by NatureCriminal7896 on Oct 30, 2023 14:14:54 GMT
I'm sorry but i disagree. i'm not sure why you think this.....
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Post by pg13 on Oct 30, 2023 15:31:49 GMT
Apologies if this thread is triggering to some, but has anyone else considered that MJs death could've been a suicide? At the end of the day, MJ easily could've cranked up the dial on the propofol drip when Murray was out of the room, knowing full well what would happen. The timing of his death has always bothered me, occurring as it did literally 10 days before the start of his big comeback. It always looked to me as if he didn't have it in him to do it anymore and felt trapped. This isn't what Murray alleged in his defense! He put MJ on a drip himself despite not having qualifications in anaesthesiology, but tried to claim MJ woke up to inject more propofol. In terms of medical science, that was impossible. There was no proper medical equipment either - not even monitoring machines to alert him with alarms. It was Russian Roulette. So, no the evidence showed Michael didn't commit suicide. I suggest you read through the trial transcripts as you'll find the medical science is explained there.
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Post by pg13 on Oct 30, 2023 15:34:04 GMT
Apologies if this thread is triggering to some, but has anyone else considered that MJs death could've been a suicide? At the end of the day, MJ easily could've cranked up the dial on the propofol drip when Murray was out of the room, knowing full well what would happen. The timing of his death has always bothered me, occurring as it did literally 10 days before the start of his big comeback. It always looked to me as if he didn't have it in him to do it anymore and felt trapped. No, Murray left him on a drip and went to talk on the phone for a long time. There wasn't a dial on the drip, it was just slowly dripping from the bottle into the bag. If I'm wrong someone correct me. I think that's correct. Murray was out of the room on the phone to his girlfriend for 30-40 mins instead of watching MJ since he wasn't using proper monitoring equipment. Bottle found in bag, yes. I think on previous occasions he'd done the drip correctly. But not that fateful day.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2023 15:37:43 GMT
Murray was supposed to be monitoring him while on the drip and he was on the phone is my understanding. I think Murray claimed MJ killed himself though.
Very much doubt MJ did, or would ever have wanted to. He's dead cos he had serious issues and put his trust in an incompetent moron.
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Post by respect77 on Oct 30, 2023 16:35:18 GMT
No.
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Oct 30, 2023 18:03:46 GMT
Medically impossible as shown in the trial .defence tried to say that
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Post by butterflies2 on Oct 30, 2023 21:01:28 GMT
Not to say he did, but I felt like he chose propofol over his kids and fans and that hurt like crazy. As much as Murray is to blame, I wish mj made better decisions and wasn’t misled by previous doctors who gave it to him too
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Oct 31, 2023 18:07:24 GMT
Easy to say if you arent a insomniac having to live the life he did and all that came with it.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 31, 2023 19:16:42 GMT
Easy to say if you arent a insomniac having to live the life he did and all that came with it. True but he earned an awful lot of money as a consequence of the life he had and being fed a drip of Propofol every night to sleep was not the only option he had.
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Post by butterflies2 on Oct 31, 2023 20:02:59 GMT
Many people are insomniacs and didn’t resort to propofol. It was the stupidest way one could die and was avoidable
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Post by TonyR on Oct 31, 2023 20:06:38 GMT
Many people are insomniacs and didn’t resort to propofol. It was the stupidest way one could die and was avoidable Bit harsh, no? The guy had very understandable mental health issues and was trying to manage it the only way he knew how.
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