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Post by pg13 on Sept 20, 2024 19:45:52 GMT
Oh, for fuck's sake! Not something I was expecting although we don't have confirmation of who these people are. Cascios seem as good a guess as any.
It definitely wasn't easy being Michael Jackson. At the Staples Memorial service, Marlon said, "Michael, maybe now they'll leave you alone."
No chance, sadly.
Bless you, Michael.
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Post by ShadowDeeps on Sept 20, 2024 20:17:01 GMT
What gave the Estate the impression that settling any potential abuse claim was a prudent idea? They would pay the Cascios but not Robson or Safechuck? If this reaches a fever pitch it could do the irreparable damage Leaving Neverland failed to do. At least that’s what I fear. And here the estate is getting ready to settle yet another claim with them (the Cascios, according to the Financial Times article, which is behind a paywall, said something about awarding damages, which I may have misread as a settlement)…… they didn’t deserve a penny, no more than Robson or Safechuck!
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Post by respect77 on Sept 20, 2024 20:29:29 GMT
What gave the Estate the impression that settling any potential abuse claim was a prudent idea? They would pay the Cascios but not Robson or Safechuck? If this reaches a fever pitch it could do the irreparable damage LN failed to do. At least that’s what I fear. And here the estate is getting ready to settle yet another claim with them (the Cascios)…… they didn’t deserve a penny, no more than Robson or Safechuck! They are not getting ready to do that. On the contrary, now they reported them to law enforcement for extortion. That's why this is coming out.
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Post by pg13 on Sept 20, 2024 20:29:45 GMT
The estate are absolute morons for giving them money and thinking that it would end well for them. That will be the main takeaway from this. "the estate paid them off". Unfortunately there is no good solution with things like this. The Cascios "coming forward" in reaction to LN in 2019 would have been just as damaging. Absolutely! There really was no good options left on the table for the Estate in the wake of LN. Only bad options were left. It certainly looks like the Cascios saw an opportunity to get their hands on money and the fact LN was on TV and in various media meant they could put pressure on the Estate. So, Estate went with a tactic (settlement in 2019) in service of their long term strategy (defending MJ against Robson & Safechuck plus Dan Reed). Between the Devil and the Deep Blue Sea, so I don't really blame the Estate. Ultimately, this crap really started with the Chandlers so I think it becomes more important to discredit them than ever before. Publicly. But the Estate can't fight on too many fronts at once as that is a weakness. "Are you infected with the same disease of lust, gluttony and greed? Watch the ones with the biggest smiles, the idle jabbers cos they're the backstabbers!"
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Post by pg13 on Sept 20, 2024 20:32:56 GMT
What gave the Estate the impression that settling any potential abuse claim was a prudent idea? They would pay the Cascios but not Robson or Safechuck? If this reaches a fever pitch it could do the irreparable damage LN failed to do. At least that’s what I fear. And here the estate is getting ready to settle yet another claim with them (the Cascios)…… they didn’t deserve a penny, no more than Robson or Safechuck! They are not getting ready to do that. On the contrary, now they reported them to law enforcement for extortion. That's why this is coming out. 100%. Time to shut shit like this down and re-establish deterrence against making claims for hundreds of millions of dollars. All the while never taking their eyes of Safechuck, Robson and Reed.
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Post by respect77 on Sept 20, 2024 20:35:43 GMT
Incidentally, I have just discussed Frank's trash ass in a closed group with other fans a few weeks ago. We all agreed that he is trash. One of the stories I remembered to bring up was one that I read from a fan many, many years ago and saved. I believe every word of it, I always did and I always knew the "friend" here is Frank. Take a look at how he behaved behind MJ's back. (Joanna is that fangirl who some fans and media articles tried to claim was MJ's girlfriend. She never was, she was instead sleeping with Frank and they were the ones who sold the girlfriend stories to media and then split the money.
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Post by MattyJam on Sept 20, 2024 20:36:52 GMT
I recall saying on this board back in 2019 that I believed it was only a matter of time before the Cascio's would turn.
If you can forge songs of your dead friend only a year after he passes, it says volumes about the respect you had for that friend and where your priorities lie.
I wonder if the eventual removal of the Cascio songs on Michael was as a result of this settlement the estate made?
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Sept 20, 2024 21:02:06 GMT
Thanks for sharing respect. I remember all that about joanna back in the day and heard about nevvy but not in that detail. The outright disrespect of some ppl. While others would have given an leg! Just to step on such hallowed ground
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Post by respect77 on Sept 20, 2024 21:05:05 GMT
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Post by abbeycodi on Sept 20, 2024 21:33:04 GMT
Listen, I know what’s done is done, but this news has me thinking about why michael befriended so many random families… obviously he didn’t know/suspect that many of them would turn out to be crooks who only saw him as a mark, but it’s got me wondering if he would have started a family of his own sooner in life, that many of his controversies could have been avoided.
Because at the root of it he just wanted to be in that family unit right? I think his own family had too much baggage, unpleasant memories, toxicity, etc. so he sought other people to play family with. I have always thought that michael was acting as more of a father to these kids he befriended as opposed to a playmate… idk just some thoughts.
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Post by MichaelD on Sept 20, 2024 21:45:06 GMT
I recall saying on this board back in 2019 that I believed it was only a matter of time before the Cascio's would turn. If you can forge songs of your dead friend only a year after he passes, it says volumes about the respect you had for that friend and where your priorities lie. I wonder if the eventual removal of the Cascio songs on Michael was as a result of this settlement the estate made? I would think so. I think they feel entitled for being his friend. But they were left out of his will, Eddie never made it as a music producer, Michael promised he would. They blame it on Michael, and they were his 'second family' after all. At first it was exciting being friends with Michael Jackson, meeting celebs, travelling the world. A place they'd never belonged to in the first place, but they were lucky. In the end it became normality. During MJ's lifetime, they received gifts, paychecks for jobs especially created for them, and so on. But when Michael passed and they realized, there's nothing more they felt betrayed, so to speak. Eddie sold the fake songs, Frank wrote a book on Michael. I give him the benefit of a doubt that he genuinely tried to paint Michael in a positive light as it was quite immediate after his passing. But it probably didn't made him the fortune he hoped for. And from this point, everything else unfolded (questionable auctions, extortion attempt, that we learned of today).
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Post by respect77 on Sept 20, 2024 22:03:48 GMT
I recall saying on this board back in 2019 that I believed it was only a matter of time before the Cascio's would turn. If you can forge songs of your dead friend only a year after he passes, it says volumes about the respect you had for that friend and where your priorities lie. I wonder if the eventual removal of the Cascio songs on Michael was as a result of this settlement the estate made? I would think so. I think they feel entitled for being his friend. But they were left out of his will, Eddie never made it as a music producer, Michael promised he would. They blame it on Michael, and they were his 'second family' after all. At first it was exciting being friends with Michael Jackson, meeting celebs, travelling the world. A place they'd never belonged to in the first place, but they were lucky. In the end it became normality. During MJ's lifetime, they received gifts, paychecks for jobs especially created for them, and so on. But when Michael passed and they realized, there's nothing more they felt betrayed, so to speak. Eddie sold the fake songs, Frank wrote a book on Michael. I give him the benefit of a doubt that he genuinely tried to paint Michael in a positive light as it was quite immediate after his passing. But it probably didn't made him the fortune he hoped for. And from this point, everything else unfolded (questionable auctions, extortion attempt, that we learned of today).
The entitlement shows in the above story I posted as well. How are you on Michael Jackson's dime, he is giving you the experiences of your life, it's the person who created Thriller, Bad and you act all condescending and mocking towards him and looking down on him behind his back? While fucking his groupies who are there because of him, not you? How are you going to then act that your 20-yo nobody ass is above him? Even in Frank's book (although he is obviously not as disrespectful as in the above story) the general condescending tone is there. And that's why I totally believe this story.
Also think about the level of arrogance and disrespect that was needed to try it with those fake songs! To think that a nobody hobby producer who never accomplished anything in life will be able to pass fake songs and make a living of it. And the disrespect of MJ as an artist as an a friend! A real friend would have never tried to pull something like that. I worry about the Cascios ever since, because that clearly showed their character and that they are capable of anything.
These people obviously very quickly forgot about where their place actually is in MJ's world. MJ was way too kind to people and it is almost that people believed their own hype after a while and that MJ somehow owed them something for life.
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Post by ontime on Sept 20, 2024 22:59:29 GMT
The Estate should have reported them for extortion from the beginning. They should’ve never received financial gain. With that said, I hope they make an example out of them.
I side eye some of the claims Frank made in his book. There were several instances where he wasn’t truthful.
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Post by respect77 on Sept 20, 2024 23:18:38 GMT
The Estate should have reported them for extortion from the beginning. They should’ve never received financial gain. With that said, I hope they make an example out of them. I side eye some of the claims Frank made in his book. There were several instances where he wasn’t truthful. Like when he acted he had no idea why MJ fired him after the trial. He acted that was just paranoia. He didn't tell the stories about his parties at NL behind MJ's back, among others. I'm really curious about the parents. Are they in are they not in and shocked? A fan said she chatted with Dominic (the father) 5 years ago and he was very nice and said MJ was like a son to him. All the while this was going on in the background? So does he know what his children were doing or was it hidden from him as well?
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Post by respect77 on Sept 20, 2024 23:34:25 GMT
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