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Post by bedroom on Dec 2, 2017 16:59:48 GMT
I am sure she has better music out but Taylor Swift's "WeeeEEEEE are never ever getting back together" gives me suicidal thoughts
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2017 22:28:45 GMT
^ I think there are some very great german artists/bands but the german language doesn't really sound good in most songs imo. There are type of songs where it does sound good. I don't know if you guys know Laibach. They are a Slovenian band and they sing in German. Apparently Rammstein was heavily influenced by them. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laibach_(band)They are also known for their peculiar covers. Obviously this is all tongue in cheek. For someone who calls me racist all the time, some of those songs look like that suspicious ass racist Aryan/Valkyrie Death Metal shit that these German, Norwegian and eastern block metal groups do. Ein volk means one people and usually is a Nazi slur referring to the one true race of blond and aryan Germans free from Slavic and Jewish "pollution". I think posting racist metal videos on a Micahel Jackson forum page is not wise. My German sister says a lot of Rammsteins music is racist and anti semitic. A lot of this music is also sexist and homophobic. Maybe you should save it for Stormfront or Chimpmania Funny people who call me racist seem to know about this kind of shit. The Jew in me is saying "Watch out" here. Also on a lighter note Laibach wa sthe German name for Ljubljana, the capital of Slovenia when it was part of the Austro Hungarian empire (Ostreich - Ungarn Kaiserreich).
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Post by Snow White on Dec 3, 2017 0:22:18 GMT
^Do you even speak German to make such claims? I trust more dancingmjsdream to tell about those matters since she's from Germany. I already mentioned how awful La Macarena is, I agree about Las Ketchup song and Gangnam Style. Those atrocities were created to make people act like mindless zombies.
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Post by respect77 on Dec 3, 2017 5:10:36 GMT
There are type of songs where it does sound good. I don't know if you guys know Laibach. They are a Slovenian band and they sing in German. Apparently Rammstein was heavily influenced by them. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laibach_(band)They are also known for their peculiar covers. Obviously this is all tongue in cheek. For someone who calls me racist all the time, some of those songs look like that suspicious ass racist Aryan/Valkyrie Death Metal shit that these German, Norwegian and eastern block metal groups do. Ein volk means one people and usually is a Nazi slur referring to the one true race of blond and aryan Germans free from Slavic and Jewish "pollution". I think posting racist metal videos on a Micahel Jackson forum page is not wise. My German sister says a lot of Rammsteins music is racist and anti semitic. A lot of this music is also sexist and homophobic. Maybe you should save it for Stormfront or Chimpmania Funny people who call me racist seem to know about this kind of shit. The Jew in me is saying "Watch out" here. Also on a lighter note Laibach wa sthe German name for Ljubljana, the capital of Slovenia when it was part of the Austro Hungarian empire (Ostreich - Ungarn Kaiserreich). For someone forever bragging about his IQ, you obviously do not understand nuances, such as irony and parody in art. They use nazi (and sometimes other totalitarian) associations obviously, but it does not mean they ARE nazi and racist. Just like MJ using such associations in the HIStory trailer did not mean that he was a nazi either (even if the media tried to play dumb to make it out that way). www.laibach.org/bio/I guess Paul McCartney is a nazi too: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laibach_(band)#cite_note-VH1-22An article about Laibach in The Guardian: www.theguardian.com/music/2014/feb/21/laibach-occupy-anonymous-spectre Again, you miss the point, don't you? The Queen cover is nothing but a word-by-word translation of the original Queen lyrics to German. They did not add or take away anything. The irony in it is how ambigious it becomes when in German and accompanied by such imagery. And do you realize Laibach are Slavic themselves (Slovenians)? "One Vision" One man, one goal, One mission. One heart, one soul, Just one solution. One flash of light. One god, one vision. One flesh, one bone, One true religion. One voice, one hope, One real decision. Gimme one vision. No wrong, no right. I'm gonna tell you there's no black and no white. No blood, no stain. All we need is one world-wide vision. One flesh, one bone, One true religion. One race, one hope, One real decision. I had a dream when I was young, A dream of sweet illusion: A glimpse of hope and unity, And visions of one sweet union. But a cold wind blows, And a dark rain falls, And in my heart it shows. Look what they've done to my dream. One vision! So give me your hands, Give me your hearts. I'm ready. There's only one direction. One world, one nation, One vision. No hate, no fight, Just excitation. All through the night It's a celebration. One. One vision. One flesh, one bone, One true religion. One voice, one hope, One real decision. Gimme one night. Gimme one hope. Just gimme. One man, one man, One bar, one night, One day. Just gimme gimme, gimme, gimme. Fried chicken. Vision. And don't get me started on YOUR racism...
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Post by dancingmjsdream on Dec 3, 2017 9:28:02 GMT
Triumph, the band Rammstein is known to be VERY controversial and provocative, that's their trade mark I'd say.
They have covered various themes in their songs like BDSM, homosexuality,sexual abuse,the holocaust, sextourism and even incest, cannibalism and necrophilia. Their music videos can be misinterpetred very easily,I think it's important to look at the lyrics because they often tell a different story.
They have always denied that they have any radical right-wing views. They actually condemn racism and antisemitism, but they still use the imagery to provoke and to satirize. Of course I can't tell what their true intentions are, but they seem to be very bothered whenever they are accused of such things. They made a song called links 2-3-4. The lyrics were written in response to allegations of fascism/nazism directed at the band. In the song, they say "my heart beats to the left, 2-3-4", insinuating they are on the left of the political spectrum. They always talk about how they grew up as socialists and used to have fights with Nazis. So I think you shouldn't condemn a band based on what you heard about them. Unfortunately they tend to attract people who support bad political views, but you have that with every controversial artist/band.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 3, 2017 20:22:03 GMT
For someone who calls me racist all the time, some of those songs look like that suspicious ass racist Aryan/Valkyrie Death Metal shit that these German, Norwegian and eastern block metal groups do. Ein volk means one people and usually is a Nazi slur referring to the one true race of blond and aryan Germans free from Slavic and Jewish "pollution". I think posting racist metal videos on a Micahel Jackson forum page is not wise. My German sister says a lot of Rammsteins music is racist and anti semitic. A lot of this music is also sexist and homophobic. Maybe you should save it for Stormfront or Chimpmania Funny people who call me racist seem to know about this kind of shit. The Jew in me is saying "Watch out" here. Also on a lighter note Laibach wa sthe German name for Ljubljana, the capital of Slovenia when it was part of the Austro Hungarian empire (Ostreich - Ungarn Kaiserreich). For someone forever bragging about his IQ, you obviously do not understand nuances, such as irony and parody in art. They use nazi (and sometimes other totalitarian) associations obviously, but it does not mean they ARE nazi and racist. Just like MJ using such associations in the HIStory trailer did not mean that he was a nazi either (even if the media tried to play dumb to make it out that way). www.laibach.org/bio/I guess Paul McCartney is a nazi too: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laibach_(band)#cite_note-VH1-22An article about Laibach in The Guardian: www.theguardian.com/music/2014/feb/21/laibach-occupy-anonymous-spectre Again, you miss the point, don't you? The Queen cover is nothing but a word-by-word translation of the original Queen lyrics to German. They did not add or take away anything. The irony in it is how ambigious it becomes when in German and accompanied by such imagery. And do you realize Laibach are Slavic themselves (Slovenians)? And don't get me started on YOUR racism... I should call you Teflon77 as any accusations seem to slide off like the non stick surface of a teflon frypan. These groups are racist and derivative of a tide of hate music that is aimed at Blacks, Jews, Muslims and Homosexuals. Also If I am so racist as you put it, why do I have Giannina Oteto on my avatar, surely a racist who hates black people would not do this or consistently laud the music of Black artists and decry people like you who post racist videos of white nationalist musical acts. Derivative and making fun of Nazi propaganada, my ass. These people oppose Islam and immigration and go on about one nation and one religion - venerating the dead Deutsches reich. Probably got posters of Adolf Dumpf all over your wall. And yet you have the nerve to attack me as in the past on Prince.org I have said that shit hop culture denigrates black people, along with made up and ignorant sounding names like Brianal and Alize. I also caught shade for criticising Black Lives Matter. I don't think I have mentioned any of that shit in over a year, I may have said some stuff about Nicki Minaj, but not because she is Black (She is actually mixed with Indian), but because she is in her mid 30s acting like an oversexed 17 year old ho and is a poor role model for women of all races and cultures. Respect 77 you are full of shit and you know it. And before you call me racist again - I am Brown not white. Also many Slavic people can be racist, look at Hungary and Croatia's behaviour around the refugees two years ago, and the amount of Slavic Poles and Russians who go around beating up Muslims and the stories of Russians in Moscow beating up and persecuting Central Asian people from Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan. If anything, many Slavs think they have excuses to be racist they feel, as they are mostly poor and hate seeing people of colour surge ahead of them. Like it is our fault they chose to go with the loonball system of communism. But yeah go on calling me a racist and a White supremacist even though I am Brown, gay, Jewish and left wing. For interest what is your race? Anyone can be a racist and anyone can be the victim of racism. Now lets get back to worst songs and let Respect 77 festering in her stew of hate somewhere else
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Post by Snow White on Dec 4, 2017 1:54:22 GMT
The one who is full of shit is you, triumph, you haven't proved any of the nonsense you claimed. I can't give an opinion about Laibach because I haven't heard their music before, I will definitely check it out though but I can say Rammstein has a huge following in non German-speaking countries and if they were racist, Nazi sympathizerss they'd have a huge backlash because Nazism is despised for the overall population. How using clips from the Nazi film-maker Leni Riefenstahl for their video Stripped makes the band Nazis? I can understand why the Nazi imagery has a negative connotation but at least myself can admire in an artistic and esthetic point of view without adhering myseld to the fascism and nationalism it represents.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2017 3:40:07 GMT
You can appreciate the art, bet you If I posted it, I would just be called a racist. Not that I ever would because I can't stand the concept of Nazism, fascism or any other ism that isolates and divides people.
Hello racism - I am Polynesian on my fathers side and Jewish. I am not WHITE.
Really sick of people like you and Respect who just talk shit and use the racism card all the damn time. Your name is Snow white and you are endorsing Rammstein, yet you are calling me out a racist. Plus you have a gif of an ultra Caucasian looking MJ on your page. I think you are a racist and you are definitely more racist than me. Yet unlike you and Respect I have not been thrown off MJJ Community.
Anyway blocked all of you, so I will never have to see or interact with any of your crap again.
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Post by respect77 on Dec 4, 2017 4:51:24 GMT
I should call you Teflon77 as any accusations seem to slide off like the non stick surface of a teflon frypan. These groups are racist and derivative of a tide of hate music that is aimed at Blacks, Jews, Muslims and Homosexuals. Yes, accusations that are simply not true slide off. That's the nature of untrue accusations. Which "these groups"? I have only talked about Laibach. (I am not even a fan of theirs, I just brought them up as an example of German language artists. And I certainly "get" the satire in their art. BTW, I first heard of them in the comment section of a liberal-left leaning website where people were praising them.) Now if you make a serious claim that they make hate music aimed at Blacks, Jews, Muslims and Homosexuals then please prove it. Please cite lyrics from them that are specifically aimed at these groups, inciting hate against them. Again, please prove how Laibach oppose Islam and immigaration. BTW, opposing Islam is not racism. Islam is a religion, not a race. I oppose Islam. Just like I oppose Christianity as well. And you are stupid if you think putting on an avatar will excuse you of all the racist shit that you have said all across many boards. Whenever you are called out on your racism, you defend yourself by things like "but I like black artists, how can I be a racist?" or "I have 10% Maori in me, how can I be a racist?" The first one is the fan equivalent of "I have a black friend so that excuses me of saying any BS about black people, because having a black friend means that I cannot be a racist". Yes, you can. You can even be a racist if you have a black spouse and mixed children. (Do you realize that slave owners, for example, often had sex with slave women and had children with them?) And you can like black music, black artists and still be a racist. The second one is just as irrelevant. Just because you are Maori it doesn't mean you cannot be racist towards other races and you are excused of saying rany acist BS towards other people, eg. blacks. Newsflash for you, not only fully white people can be racist. So how is your race or my race relevant in this discussion? You seem to be preoccupired with everyone's race (also on other boards). That's another sign of your racism, IMO. One's race does not make one a racist and also does not excuse him of saying racist BS towards other races. For your information, I am not signed up on Prince.org, I only read it, so I haven't attacked you there. You have other people calling you out on your racism there. Maybe you should think about why you are constantly being called a racist by so many people across several boards. Maybe that's not my fault then... Not liking hip-hop is not racism, but it depends on what you say and how you say it, to decide whether what you said had a racist angle. I don't remember that conversation, but if people called you a racist for your criticism on hip-hop, I suspect you have said something that was racist in that debate. That wouldn't be atypical of you. I remember your comments on "black names" on Prince.org and yes, I felt they were racist. So that everyone here can se what we are talking about: And you regularly imply that black people have a lower IQ than white people and you love going on about that. This is where you were coming from with your posts where you questioned Prince's IQ on Prince.org and MJ's on MJJC. In the context of your other posts at the time about black people's IQ (not everoyne saw that context, because not everyone sees your activities on Prince.org) it was easy to understand where you were coming from with that. (BTW, you mistook being educated for having a high IQ too.) You are preoccupied with people's race and their IQ - and the supposed correlation between those. Yes, that's racist. Again, for someone who loves to brag so much about his high IQ (while going on about black people's supposedly lower IQ) you have a lot of difficulty with understanding things in a context. I did not say Slavic people cannot be racist. I answered to what you wrote here: You said that those Laibach lyrics (actually it is a translation of Queen's One Vision into German, LOL) were anti-Slavic and anti-Jewish. That's why I pointed out to you that Laibach were Slavic themselves. That's more telling about MJJC than about us. Banning people for disagreeing with the owner, but not for posting racist BS...
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Post by SmoothGangsta on Dec 4, 2017 5:11:57 GMT
I'm just gonna go slightly back on topic for a moment with the whole quality of music nowadays discussion. I definitely think mainstream music is lower quality today, I can't listen to most of it because it's the same recycled stuff over and over. I'm talking top 40 stuff. Obviously good music exists and I'm not saying good music doesn't get into the charts because it certainly does, I just think in general it's very easy if you have the money to put together a manufactured image, have little to no talent and still get into the top 20. I've seen it time and time again in recent years. As long as you're hot and have got some processing on your vocals, or your song has a catchy melody people won't listen to the lyrics and will listen to it anyway. I'm not even talking about lyrics being meaningful either, I like fun songs, as long as the lyrics aren't laughably bad.
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Post by Snow White on Dec 4, 2017 6:27:50 GMT
Your ad hominem attacks don't make any more convincing the bullshit you're spewing. You're accusing these two bands in particular of racism, anti semitism, homophobia,etc yet , you haven't provided a single evidence how Rammstein and Laichbach incurred in those conducts. Rammstein have defended themselves against those accusations, talking about the Holocaust, using Nazi footage don't make them sympathers. They're not the only band to be inspired by esthetic of it or simply using the footage to make statements. You accused them of being homophobic but you've made homophobic remarks against Michael and Prince in the past. You claim you're not racist because of your ethnicity, the color of your skin or liking black artists yet you just were racist towards MJ in your last paragraph calling him Caucasian when you know damn well he had vitiligo and gradually lost the pigment of his skin. And don't get me started on the racist comments you've made on MJJC, people who have been members there for a while know very well Gaz loves trolls and rude people run rampant for months before doing something because I guess it gives the forum traffic. I bet fans there are missing respect more than they'd miss you if you were banned. The gifs on my signature were made black and white, he didn't even look that pale.
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Post by LindavG on Dec 11, 2017 17:19:52 GMT
^I think german is great for aggressive songs, that's why I like Rammstein (Du Hast is a fantastic song imo) but german ballads and german rap are very awful LOL Rammstein scares me. I did like their song Amerika though but that one was more pop-rock. I only know a handful of German songs but there are some good ballads and rap among them! Like these: ^ The last one is about a girl who died of a drug overdose. Oh and I can't forget this gem : My brother and I would play this in the car really loud and just laugh until we cried This song is sooo wrong that it's right, LOL.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 2:17:28 GMT
Now I have to say a new song has taken that title - Gucci Gang by Lil Pump. This is a 16/17 year kid with multi coloured dreads singing about bitches and cocaine. Shitty generic beats, irresponsible lyrics about fucking bitches, using cocaine and molly, selling meth in the projects, fucking his teacher to pass and a shitty video with a tiger, singing about lean and racks.
It is irresponsible and juvenile shit, this type of music should be banned.
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Post by HIStoric on Dec 18, 2017 2:54:42 GMT
It is irresponsible and juvenile shit, this type of music should be banned. Should ban some of Prince's music too if we're going down that path. I mean, he literally sings about the revolting (and illegal) act of incest in his song Sister.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2017 3:37:08 GMT
It is irresponsible and juvenile shit, this type of music should be banned. Should ban some of Prince's music too if we're going down that path. I mean, he literally sings about the revolting (and illegal) act of incest in his song Sister. Yes but Prince was not 16 at the time and Sister was never a hit single like Gucci Gang is. Also Sister was meant as a joke, Gucci Gang is serious, this 16 year old boy is festooned in tattoos of skulls, is always high and drunk and wears a broom on his head.
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