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Post by pg13 on Jun 9, 2019 14:19:08 GMT
I have to say I'm getting mightily pissed off at the constant protests from those who voted remain. The vote was done. Leave won. I completely respect that those who wanted to remain in the EU have right to their opinion, but the protests, constant fear-mongering and street parades are getting OLD. If remain won, I don't believe they'd tantrum this way. All this "We all want a new people's vote" is a laugh. We had the "People's Vote" in 2016. It’s the fact that the public was blatantly lied to and things like the Irish peace process was never even mentioned. If there’d had been even a sniff of the fact that this may threaten peace in Northern Ireland then Leave wouldn’t have won. Threaten peace in Northern Ireland? 🙄 What peace? Whenever anyone tells you that Brexit (or anything else that doesn't suit their particular agenda) is putting the Good Friday Agreement at risk, laugh in their face, because the GFA is not worth the paper it was written on. The following is a list compiled from statistics on the PSNI website and covers the 21 years the GFA has been in force. It relates only to Northern Ireland and only to 'recorded' incidents. It does not include republican terrorist atrocities on the UK mainland (like the BBC and Ealing bombings) or any murders, kneecappings or weapon finds in the Irish Republic. 164 Terrorist Murders (Please note that this figure is larger than the one quoted by the BBC because, apparently, murdered soldiers and police officers don't count when they are doing the maths!) 3, 103 Kneecappings, punishment beatings (iron bars & baseball bats), and other 'paramilitary style' (non-fatal) shootings. 2, 695 'other' shooting incidents (attempted murders?). 1,715 Bombings (including incendiaries and involving 2, 159 'devices'). Those figures average to at least one significant horrific, life changing event EVERY SINGLE DAY since the GFA came into force in 1998. 2, 169 Firearms, 326,686 rounds of ammunition 2.133 tonnes (yes, tonnes) of explosives These were ALL recovered by the PSNI. Here is the link to the source material: www.psni.police.uk/inside-psni/Statistics/Ass you can see, Brexit certainly is NOT the cause of any violence in Northern Ireland. It PREDATES the issue of Brexit itself, so let's not aid the Republicans into trying to use Brexit as a convenient scapegoat. I don't think the subject of Northern Ireland would have affected the result of 2016 anyway. In Ulster, we're the first to say that nobody can be dictated to by the terrorist scum. So, why would our fellow British citizens in Great Britain have allowed the Republican terrorist scum to undeservedly and unfairly influence the UK's EU Referendum through their own threats of violence? There is NO reason to. The terrorists don't really have a moral compass. Let's be real. 🤔
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Post by mjjfan810 on Jun 11, 2019 8:14:39 GMT
Anyone who is not already wealthy or who stands to gain financially from the impact of Brexit, will be a net loser.
The wealthy, the unscrupulous and self-serving disaster capitalists will be the only beneficiaries of this utter debacle.
The poor, the sick, the disabled, the disadvantaged, the elderly, the young... and anyone who currently just about manges to "get by" will be the ones who suffer, whilst the Johnsons, the Rees-Moggs, the Mays and the Dysons of this nation will be the only ones who stand to gain anything.
Believe what these utter b*stards tell you at your peril.
Don't EVER believe that we're all in this shitstorm together - we most certainly are not.
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Post by pg13 on Jun 14, 2019 18:17:27 GMT
Anyone who is not already wealthy or who stands to gain financially from the impact of Brexit, will be a net loser. The wealthy, the unscrupulous and self-serving disaster capitalists will be the only beneficiaries of this utter debacle. The poor, the sick, the disabled, the disadvantaged, the elderly, the young... and anyone who currently just about manges to "get by" will be the ones who suffer, whilst the Johnsons, the Rees-Moggs, the Mays and the Dysons of this nation will be the only ones who stand to gain anything. Believe what these utter b*stards tell you at your peril. Don't EVER believe that we're all in this shitstorm together - we most certainly are not. I have to say I'm perplexed by this paralysis of fear in relation to Brexit. Historically, I can't think of a country that was shitting itself over a major, unprecedented constitutional change. Take what is now the Republic of Ireland as an example. Did they shit themselves at the prospect of leaving the UK? Did they heck! 😂 They left and, of course, ended up slaughtering the shite out of each other. Not to mention the Irish Free State Government of 1924 covered up a famine that year as they didn't want the United States of America to think they were incapable of governing themselves. "The Freeman’s Journal described the severity of the crisis while reporting from Connemara, one of the worst hit regions: “75% of the people had now no potatoes, their chief diet for the last 2 months, and the harvest prospects were never worse in living memory. There is no employment.”www.irishcentral.com/roots/history/irelands-forgotten-famine-of-1925-newly-independent-government-covered-up-calamityThe then Irish Free State Government started denying that 750,000 people were facing starvation. They embarked on quite an extreme austerity programme beforehand in 1923 as well. Of course, the Republic of Ireland today is a long way away from those early days. But the point is that they weren't shitting bricks about future. Back to the present day, here's the view from Gibraltar who are also often overlooked in the entire Brexit process......even by their fellow British citizens on the island known as Great Britain: "My Government did what we do best, we knuckled down and got on with the job of facing the issues and best preparing ourselves for the new look future that we did not want, but will work tirelessly to make the most of.
We cancelled holidays, started the process of unravelling what that future looked like.
So how have we actually done? How has the economy performed in this period of flux?
In fact, the economy of Gibraltar has defied expectations and all attempted sabotage and has performed extraordinarily well!
An economy that has faced serious challenges in the past and will do so in the future.....
Because we all know that Brexit won’t be a bed of roses.
But we can now see that neither will it be a bed of nails.
Gibraltarians wouldn’t blink in either case.
Together, we know history doesn’t give us time for bed.
We are out there getting things done - not lying back and thinking of England leaving the European Union!"
- Fabian Picardo, Chief Minister of Gibraltar 2017As Picardo said, Gibraltarians wouldn't blink in EITHER case. Neither would those Ulster folk who are proud to be British. So, all that's left to ask is......where has the belief in the UK and British endeavour as well as ability to deal with any hardships disappeared to when it comes to some people on the island of Great Britain?! Is Brexit going to be as bad as the early years of the Irish Free State? Hell, no! Is Brexit going to be as bad as WW2? Hell, no! Is Brexit going to be as bad as the Troubles? Hell, no! I'm perplexed by what's commonly known as Project Fear......
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Post by pg13 on Jun 15, 2019 19:37:53 GMT
Clearly, the easiest and only real solution is for the EU to give the Republic of Ireland special status.
ROI goods can be checked at Calais and Rotterdam which ensures the EU customs union as well as single market is protected.
This option also allays any fears the Northern Ireland economy will face a trade blockade as we'd be able to keep trading with the ROI exactly as we do now.
It also allays any fears of terrorism from Republicans such as NIRA.
This option also ensures the East-West part of the GFA stays intact. The EU's favoured option breaches the GFA because it gradually separates Northern Ireland from Great Britain.
Yet the EU refuse to do all this precisely because they fear it will encourage further Euroscepticism on continental Europe.
Sorry EU, but you really talked up the potential for violence in Northern Ireland and the need to protect the GFA.
This is the only real option left. I suggest you get on board this train because it will leave the station soon.
Talk about shooting yourself in the foot! 😂
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Post by pg13 on Jul 4, 2019 22:11:38 GMT
So, Boris Johnson didn't actually lie at all about the £350 million.
Judge's ruling in his favour:
In interviews, Johnson made it clear that the £350 million was the gross figure.
No wonder the ridiculous businessman lost the case and now faces potential financial ruin.
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Post by pg13 on Jul 19, 2019 19:52:17 GMT
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Post by pg13 on Aug 2, 2019 13:57:47 GMT
Sure, the EU has its own interests. But their intransigence from the beginning doesn't insulate them from any share of blame or negative impact of a No Deal Brexit. To say nothing about the ridiculous backstop proposal which certainly isn't a compromise, really.
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Post by pg13 on Aug 3, 2019 11:12:06 GMT
A deal is about compromises and not everything will be as the UK would like it. The EU has its interests too. The unreasonable behaviour of the EU is what caused the referendum in the beginning. Regardless these puppets are just following their NWO masters, this has been set out for years. It's quite obviously in the best interests of the UK for a hard-brexit, we would thrive but it won't happen it's all part of the big plan of a single European state/army. What PM in their right mind would secretly tie us into a deal where we had no say for years to come, yet would have to abide by EU rules and still have to pay for the privilege? A PM that doesn't have the interests of their people in mind and also one that has no faith in her own country, it makes not one bit of sense she's simply a puppet. To add to this, the EU hasn't changed from their treatment of Australia and all the way to Brexit with the UK. Not at all dissimilar to the treatment David Cameron got by the EU before we had our referendum. The EU would have to accept they have a massive share of the blame for a No Deal Brexit. Remainers will say otherwise, but they're also mostly clueless and deluded regarding Northern Ireland which they actually use to shore up their "argument". 🤔
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Post by pg13 on Aug 11, 2019 22:24:54 GMT
Revisiting this. That doesn't speak to compromise of any description. Especially the backstop proposal which has ZERO benefit for the EU itself other than as a political weapon to make it so tough it turns the British people against Brexit. Suddenly, everyone speaks as though they're an expert on this specific issue! Especially the Remainers who hadn't given Northern Ireland any more than five minutes' thought previously....if we're lucky! That backstop isn't actually a UK proposal.
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Post by Cloudbuster on Oct 29, 2019 20:17:09 GMT
On the day that the election is called.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 12, 2019 22:59:24 GMT
Sending happy thoughts to anyone feeling shit tonight.
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Post by respect77 on Dec 13, 2019 4:45:26 GMT
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Post by ghost on Dec 14, 2019 23:25:05 GMT
Lily Allen was crying (literally) on her Insta over the election result calling everyone who voted for the winning party a racist. After insulting millions of Britons she (unsurprisingly) got quite a backlash and has since shut her account. Lol
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Post by respect77 on Dec 15, 2019 3:34:05 GMT
Ironic that they weren't bothered by Corbyn's antisemitism. It seems to me that antisemitism is the accepted form of racism on the left these days.
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Post by Vega on Dec 15, 2019 5:07:34 GMT
Ironic that they weren't bothered by Corbyn's antisemitism. It seems to me that antisemitism is the accepted form of racism on the left these days. Making antisemitism in Britain a left v. right issue is incredibly bizarre. Both the Conservatives and Labour have a rather shameful history of antisemitism (both historic and current), and it's down to the Conservative spin team for making it seem like Labour was alone in grappling with it.
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