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Post by SmoothGangsta on Apr 24, 2024 9:08:19 GMT
I have been updating the acapellas on my Youtube channel with much better sounding versions if anyone is interested.
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Post by electriceyes on Apr 24, 2024 9:52:25 GMT
^^ I know this is the stuff of fairytales, but I think this video was really well executed and shows how amazing WII could've been live. Although they should've made more of the beatboxing at the end.
Oh, if only...
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Post by MattyJam on Apr 24, 2024 11:18:02 GMT
^^ I know this is the stuff of fairytales, but I think this video was really well executed and shows how amazing WII could've been live. Although they should've made more of the beatboxing at the end. Oh, if only... Ha, I enjoyed that. A live performance of WII is my best description of what heaven must be like. Keep your 72 virgins, I'll have WII live at Wembley, thanks. |
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Post by Snow White on Apr 24, 2024 17:09:40 GMT
Human nature is interesting to witness, isn't it? Journalism must be filled with amoral psychopaths/sociopaths that would rather sell their integrity for money. I've said this before, I'll say it again media has never cared about children who might have been abused, they just want Michael to be guilty because it's been more profitable for them, no matter if the truth and common sense smack them right in their sorry ass mugs.
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Apr 25, 2024 8:04:08 GMT
Their jobs are more important than their actual beliefs. They write the stories their editors want.
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Apr 25, 2024 15:22:28 GMT
Interesting new about weinsteins NY conviction being thrown out. Seems to be because the judge allowed non convicted prior bad acts to be brought in ala 03-05
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Post by Snow White on Apr 25, 2024 15:57:48 GMT
Their jobs are more important than their actual beliefs. They write the stories their editors want. Working for filthy tabloids is a choice, though. |
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Post by respect77 on Apr 25, 2024 16:44:04 GMT
Interesting new about weinsteins NY conviction being thrown out. Seems to be because the judge allowed non convicted prior bad acts to be brought in ala 03-05 Yeah. As much as I think Weinstein is probably a pervert the overturn makes sense to me from the article I read. And I immediately thought of Melville allowing "prior bad acts" in 2005 because this seems to be the same. Here's from the Weinstein ruling: I always felt Melville allowing "prior bad acts" (previous uncharged allegations) was wrong and would have been a good ground for appeal if MJ had been convicted. Although in MJ's case it was even worse considering that there they brought in "prior bad acts" that weren't only uncharged but the alleged victim (Jordan) didn't even show up to be cross examined or they denied abuse (Brett, Mac, Wade). |
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Apr 25, 2024 16:55:23 GMT
Yeah. Whatever you think of harvey you have to agree with the ruling in the legal sense. It makes you wonder why theres not just a blanket ban on any non proven allegation being used. There was alot of debate in the uk when convicted prior bad acts were allowed as it could be viewed as prejudicial, let alone ones that had never been tested in court.
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Post by elusivemoonwalker on Apr 25, 2024 16:56:45 GMT
Their jobs are more important than their actual beliefs. They write the stories their editors want. Working for filthy tabloids is a choice, though. Totally. Its about career progression nothing more |
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Post by MattyJam on Apr 25, 2024 20:17:37 GMT
Very loosely MJ related:
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Post by respect77 on Apr 26, 2024 2:26:18 GMT
Yes, but he's too nice. Not only she doesn't have a Billie Jean, she's Miss Mediocrity. The amazing thing about her is how she manages to be so popular while being so bland and mediocre, but I've been told that's actually her appeal to her audience. I think it's also that the current music scene is so poor, she hardly has any competition. I don't think in the 80s she could have been more than B list if even that because there was just so much talent and and so much competition in pop music. |
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Post by electriceyes on Apr 26, 2024 6:49:11 GMT
Yes, but he's too nice. Not only she doesn't have a Billie Jean, she's Miss Mediocrity. The amazing thing about her is how she manages to be so popular while being so bland and mediocre, but I've been told that's actually her appeal to her audience. I think it's also that the current music scene is so poor, she hardly has any competition. I don't think in the 80s she could have been more than B list if even that because there was just so much talent and and so much competition in pop music. When you reach a certain age, it's already an act of generosity to have an open mind about younger pop stars and their music. That achieved, it's even rarer for songs by "younger" artist to really register with an older listener. Her defining song for me is Shake it Off. When I think of Taylor, this is the song playing in my head. I wasn’t really paying her much attention before but I knew who she was after this. It was fucking everywhere in 2014, even in supermarkets. You couldn’t get away from it if you tried. I think this is when her dominance started to reach next level. MJ is quite the exception in that he has multiple songs that people outside the fanbase know. Most massive artists only really have 1-2 songs that managed to penetrate into the wider publics consciousness. Multiple hits yes, Beyonce, Madonna, Queen etc have hits to spare, but in terms of songs that everybody in society knows and remembers, it's quite rare for an artist to have more than one or two. |
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Post by ghost on Apr 26, 2024 7:19:22 GMT
Yes, but he's too nice. Not only she doesn't have a Billie Jean, she's Miss Mediocrity. The amazing thing about her is how she manages to be so popular while being so bland and mediocre, but I've been told that's actually her appeal to her audience. I think it's also that the current music scene is so poor, she hardly has any competition. I don't think in the 80s she could have been more than B list if even that because there was just so much talent and and so much competition in pop music. When you reach a certain age, it's already an act of generosity to have an open mind about younger pop stars and their music. That achieved, it's even rarer for songs by "younger" artist to really register with an older listener. Her defining song for me is Shake it Off. When I think of Taylor, this is the song playing in my head. I wasn’t really paying her much attention before but I knew who she was after this. It was fucking everywhere in 2014, even in supermarkets. You couldn’t get away from it if you tried. I think this is when her dominance started to reach next level. MJ is quite the exception in that he has multiple songs that people outside the fanbase know. Most massive artists only really have 1-2 songs that managed to penetrate into the wider publics consciousness. Multiple hits yes, Beyonce, Madonna, Queen etc have hits to spare, but in terms of songs that everybody in society knows and remembers, it's quite rare for an artist to have more than one or two. This is simply not true. I am not a Queen fan, but could rattle off at least six songs off the top of my head. Bohemian Rhapsody, Don't Stop Me Now, We Will Rock You, Another One Bites The Dust, We Are The Champions, Radio Gaga. I'm a huge Madonna fan so I know her entire body of work, but I bet most people could name 6-8 Madonna songs, fans or not. Vogue, Papa Don't Preach, Like A Virgin, Hung Up, Like A Prayer, La Isla Bonita... everyone knows these songs. Even Beyonce, who I actively avoid listening to, I could name a few, Single Ladies, If I Were A Boy, Crazy In Love, Irreplaceable. But you can add me to the list of music lovers who only knows Shake It Off from Swift. I'm sure I've heard other songs by her, but the only one I consider widely known is that one. |
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Post by respect77 on Apr 26, 2024 8:09:37 GMT
Yes, but he's too nice. Not only she doesn't have a Billie Jean, she's Miss Mediocrity. The amazing thing about her is how she manages to be so popular while being so bland and mediocre, but I've been told that's actually her appeal to her audience. I think it's also that the current music scene is so poor, she hardly has any competition. I don't think in the 80s she could have been more than B list if even that because there was just so much talent and and so much competition in pop music. When you reach a certain age, it's already an act of generosity to have an open mind about younger pop stars and their music. That achieved, it's even rarer for songs by "younger" artist to really register with an older listener. Her defining song for me is Shake it Off. When I think of Taylor, this is the song playing in my head. I wasn’t really paying her much attention before but I knew who she was after this. It was fucking everywhere in 2014, even in supermarkets. You couldn’t get away from it if you tried. I think this is when her dominance started to reach next level. MJ is quite the exception in that he has multiple songs that people outside the fanbase know. Most massive artists only really have 1-2 songs that managed to penetrate into the wider publics consciousness. Multiple hits yes, Beyonce, Madonna, Queen etc have hits to spare, but in terms of songs that everybody in society knows and remembers, it's quite rare for an artist to have more than one or two. I was thinking about whether I'm just being an old fart with this "everything in my time was better" thinking when I can't see the greatness in Taylor, but I honestly don't think so. I acknowledge music is subjective and I also acknowledge the phenomenon that everyone tends to be drawn to the music that was "in" during their youth. Having said that, I think it's fair to say for example that in the 80s there was a bigger diversity of really big talent than it is now and the pop/rock scene had more originality and competition. I'm not even going to alternative music or anything like that, just the popular big names. MJ, Prince, Madonna, Queen, Whitney, Guns N Roses, Metallica, Phil Collins, George Michael, etc. etc. What's the equivalent of this pool of talent today? And this variety and diversity in music? And when there's little competition then it's easier for mediocrity to shine and that's what's happening re. Taylor IMO. Or people like Ed Sheeran, for that matter. I don't think it's a coincidence that two of the biggest acts today are Mr. and Miss Inoffensive Mediocrity. I know Shake It Off was popular. No one disputes her popularity. I think what Neil Tennant was saying, and certainly what I'm saying is, that even her best(?)/most popular song is rather generic. Maybe generational bias plays a part here but I don't think it's just that. And the fact that artists like Queen or MJ are still going strong on platforms that are popular with the new generation speaks for itself. Will the youth of the future in 30 years discover Taylor's music and think "wow, this is amazing"? Hard to tell, but I doubt it. PS: I was curious so I looked it up just for fun. Billie Jean moved 675,035 streams yesterday on YouTube. Shake It Off 392,450. It's her second most popular song on current daily streams (#1 is Blank Space with 741,216 streams). On Spotify Billie Jean moved 970,187 streams yesterday. Shake It Off 680,341. Obviously Taylor being a current artist (and the hype of the moment at that) has a huge advantage on streaming services overall over inactive or dead legacy acts like MJ, so it's not even a fair competition, but what I'm trying to point out is that Billie Jean has the longevity that Shake It Off doesn’t even have now at Taylor's peak, let alone in 30 years from now. |
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