Janet Jackson's place in pop music history?

Is it true that JT is presenting her with the award and induction?












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Black Cat was pretty rock & roll but no she’s definitely pop. Without wanting to put a downer on Janet’s achievement, the older I’m getting the more I wonder if this type of accolade actually means anything? I’ve become somewhat cynical about the whole awards thing recently. I suppose it’s nice to be recognised for what you do.

I was wondering if they will eventually run out of worthy artists. I mean every year 5 artists are inducted. But real legends and icons aren't really made at that rate.

Absolutely. It’s so strange how some -average- artists are inducted yet some genuine -legends- are ignored or have to be campaigned for, for years. 

I don't know what to make of the perception of Janet. Her music is absolutely killer (well, for the most part of her career. Her sales have decreased much like anyone else in her age category so that's no biggie.) Control, Rhythm Nation, Janet., Velvet Rope. How can these NOT be considered some of the greatest pop/RNB albums of all time? EVen if she called it a day at that, what a career and what a path she created. Started in the shadow of her brother(s) and then became her own animal. I was jumping from album to album last night and her stuff is just incredible.

The Superbowl killed her. Dead. It was a stupid stunt that reeked of attention seeking, but the reaction she got was absolutely 2020 level stupid. On top of that, I think Glastonbury last year damaged her too over here and in the UK. It was the wrong setting for lip synching, the shortened set was not festival friendly and it was just not what people were looking for at a 2019 festival. It was also less than 3 months after the MJ shit, which people would have associated with her and her name too< i'm sure. Then, she goes to Montreux a few weeks later, does her full set and blows away the audience. I read that she arrived on late, which is considered VERY disrespectful at the Montreux Jazz Festival, but she still turned it around and I didnt see ONE complaint about her tardiness after the show (just a couple while they were waiting for her to start). It's a shame this wasnt more widely broadcast.

Don't care anyway, she's one of the best. Control to Rope are absolute masterclasses in leadership. So completely removed from MJ's stuff. I threw on a show from the Rhythm Nation Tour last night on YT and it was pretty cool.

I know she got in the HOF this year, but I hope the next few years are kinder to Janet. That being said, her silence on the shit last year doesn't sit 100% right with me either. I know she was riding a wave with an upcoming tour, but nothing on this planet would keep me from defending my sister's to my grave. Then again, the Jacksons have not exactly been the most normal family, have they?

Yeah, I think her voice suits her music, but also limits her appeal. There's only one fully live performance I can think of in her entire career, I think she performed I Get Lonely live on some US TV show back in the day. Her concerts are all 100% pre-recorded vocals and always have been. Even the HIStory tour had way more live vocals than any Janet concert ever had. I'm not getting at her for it, but other average vocalists like Madonna or Kylie Minogue at least try and sing live on most of their shows. Janet really was a blueprint for someone like Britney tbh, all dancing, no singing etc.

I think her catalogue, particularly her first four albums, is strong, but definitely not strong enough to seriously compete alongside Madonna and not even in the same league as geniuses like Prince and MJ.

Another thing which I think detracts from her is that she was very much an artist of her producers (Jam & Lewis). It's no coincidence that her commercial appeal took a serious nosedive around the same time she started working with other producers. MJ had success before Quincy and achieved huge success, both commercially and especially artistically post-Quincy. He wrote enough songs by himself to prove that he alone was a major factor in why people brought Michael Jackson records. Even Madonna, who has seldom written a song by herself and always works with outside producers, has proven that she is a massive factor in her own appeal. She has found massive success with a huge array of co-collaborators and producers, which proves that she has some kind of "x" factor of her own. Janet's career was in doldrums before her first album with Jam & Lewis and went back the doldrums when she branched away from them.