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Post by Angel of Light on Jun 29, 2018 23:54:23 GMT
http://instagr.am/p/Bknfd_qFRVG SMH, I am so disappointed in Prince now. This is probably what the family has been feeding him with in the past years, but it is still disappointing to see him rehash this revisionits bullcrap. I don't know why the family still wants to keep up this long broken facade. It's just so ridiculous now. And saying that Joe raised them right. This coming from someone who was never hit in his life because his dad didn't believe in that. But apparently Joe's methods were right. SMH Prince. You need to learn a little bit about your daddy. This is definitely sad to see, especially after Michael has told his side of the story in the past and he was so visibly wounded by it all. To hear his son say this is disappointing. In the Glenda recordings, Michael talks about the Jackson family doing the very thing Prince is actually doing in this video: keeping up the wholesome Jackson family image, and putting Joe on a glorified pedestal. Nothing has changed. I really don't want to be critical of MJ's kids, but I can't help but feel like there is a lot about him they just don't understand or even know. One being his relationship with Joe.
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Post by HIStoric on Jun 30, 2018 0:10:44 GMT
If Joe raised his kids so right, Prince, why didn't Michael raise you in the same way? Why did Michael go so actively out of his way to raise you in a completely different manner but also make note of it in interviews?
Joseph might have kept the kids off the streets and away from the gangs, sure, but again his method is not the only method of doing so. Look at how your father speaks of him in the many interviews out there and you'll see the strong long-term psychological impact of his methods.
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Post by milo on Jun 30, 2018 2:18:13 GMT
I guess Prince never heard Michael’s interviews where he talked about being abused by Joseph. It’s really embarrassing for him to defend a man he barely knew when Michael was alive. Did he ask himself why Michael almost never brought them around the Jacksons? I understand Prince is mourning right now and I don’t agree with people insulting his grandfather at this time on his instagram page, but it’s disappointing that he’s being a typical Jackson sweeping things under the rug.
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Post by Russg on Jun 30, 2018 4:52:00 GMT
So is Prince calling his father a liar? Cuz you can't have it both ways. smdh
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Post by rhilo on Jun 30, 2018 5:33:16 GMT
No thank you. I'll take Michael's words over anyone's. Who exactly is Prince directing this to? His father's fans? I don't think Michael's fans would change their minds based on Prince's words.
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Post by respect77 on Jun 30, 2018 6:15:40 GMT
I guess there were some mean comments on his timeline. I know Taj complained about comments like "good riddance" on his timeline and I can imagine Prince got similar ones too. And of course such comments are completely out of line from any fan or anyone else. Fans too need to understand that these people might have a different experience re. Joe than Michael and his siblings. And in any case, it is rude and improper to make such comments about someone's grandfather, esp. when they just lost him. So yeah, people on social media can be antagonizing. And I guess this made Prince be defensive, however he is completely wrong about how he handles it. He could have defended his grandfather without denying his father's experiences with Joe. He could have done it by saying: "Look guys, my experiences with granddady are absolutely positive. I didn't know him as a father, I cannot speak for my father and my grandfather's relationship, but mine is this and this and that and I don't appreciate anyone talking shit about him on my timeline." I think this would have sounded so much better.
But what Prince chose to do instead is get into this family party line of complete denial about what Joe did to Michael - and this basically making his father out to be a liar. Maybe Prince is just not aware of the things Michael said about Joseph over the years. I can imagine this is not something that the family showed him, and before Michael died they were still very young, so possibly MJ didn't tell them about it either. Still all the videos about this are only a click away. He could research and see it for himself what his father actually said. Taj in his comment acted like all the abuse narrative is a creation of the tabloid media and it is just not true. Michael himself called it abuse and talked about massively abusive things. And Joe more or less admitted to them - only he always tried to play them down as just "normal discipline" or something that was needed to keep them out of jail and drugs. Basically Prince seems to buy into that narrative, but he should realize how he is basically a privileged person denying his father's right to feel offended about something he (Michael) exprienced and Prince, fortunately for him, never did - because Michael made conscious efforts to NOT raise his children like Joseph did. Then to say Joseph raised his children right - and that coming out of the mouth of a child who has never been hit and who was raised with care and love - feels like a slap in the face of Michael.
But then putting on a front in public is nothing new from the Jacksons. Michael addressed it 30 years ago.
Only, this second generation of the Jacksons possibly actually believes this sugarcoated story, because they never experienced the life MJ and his siblings did and this is what they are being told by the rest of the family. Still, Michael's talking about how it was not so is well documented. Prince should do his research before talking BS.
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Post by Russg on Jun 30, 2018 7:20:35 GMT
Maybe Prince is just not aware of the things Michael said about Joseph over the years. I can imagine this is not something that the family showed him, and before Michael died they were still very young, so possibly MJ didn't tell them about it either. Still all the videos about this are only a click away. I find it hard to believe that Prince has never watched things like the Oprah interview. I think he knows what his father said, he's just been brainwashed into believing the Jacksons glossed-over version of events and compartmentalized his fathers words into a little box he is choosing to ignore in his brain.
It IS offensive to Michael though. The second generation Jacksons are always so keen to blame everything on the big-bad, nasty media, and conveniently ignore the dysfunction in their own family. I guess it must be surreal having an uncle who wrote a diss-song about your dad, having a grandpa who is known the world over for his abusive raising of his children, having an auntie who stripped for Playboy and said terrible things about several family members, including Prince's own father. There has to be an element of compartmentalization going on to survive growing up in that family.
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Post by mjjfan810 on Jun 30, 2018 8:11:35 GMT
Has Prince deleted that clip from his Instagram? I can't find it on his page.
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Post by respect77 on Jun 30, 2018 8:28:16 GMT
Has Prince deleted that clip from his Instagram? I can't find it on his page. I still can see it.
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Post by Snow White on Jun 30, 2018 10:16:02 GMT
That video Prince made was uploaded into another Instagram page.
He needs a reality check, I hope he doesn't ignore the comments if the fans send him quotes or videos from his father talking about Joe before putting more his food on his mouth on YT video. That was embarrassing and disappointing of him indeed, he said his father warned them about the Jacksons' ways, unless MJ didn't tell about the abuse he went through.
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Post by rhilo on Jun 30, 2018 11:05:50 GMT
In time, Prince would've more time with the rest of the Jacksons than the time he got to spend with his dad. And in time he's going to be more influenced by the family's way of thinking, handling things, etc. I only hope he doesn't end up becoming a bad parent like some of his uncles and Joe, especially now since he sees no wrong in their behavior now and past.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2018 17:45:58 GMT
No thank you. I'll take Michael's words over anyone's. Who exactly is Prince directing this to? His father's fans? I don't think Michael's fans would change their minds based on Prince's words. I pay no attention to the kids. Never felt like I had to. They're their own people. If Prince is trying to make his grandad out to be a misunderstood character, I'd just let him. His grandad was a prick regardless of wjat he says or how he tries to paint it. His dad had been telling us since before he was born
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Post by MattyJam on Jun 30, 2018 18:29:54 GMT
His grandad was a prick regardless of wjat he says or how he tries to paint it. His dad had been telling us since before he was born I can just see it now.... Oprah: If you had to describe your father in three words, what would they be?
MJ: A giant prick.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2018 18:42:15 GMT
I can just see it now.... Oprah: If you had to describe your father in three words, what would they be?
MJ: A giant prick.Oh that would have broken transmissions!
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Post by suzie on Jul 1, 2018 6:22:33 GMT
Maybe Prince is just not aware of the things Michael said about Joseph over the years. I can imagine this is not something that the family showed him, and before Michael died they were still very young, so possibly MJ didn't tell them about it either. Still all the videos about this are only a click away. I find it hard to believe that Prince has never watched things like the Oprah interview. I think he knows what his father said, he's just been brainwashed into believing the Jacksons glossed-over version of events and compartmentalized his fathers words into a little box he is choosing to ignore in his brain.
It IS offensive to Michael though. The second generation Jacksons are always so keen to blame everything on the big-bad, nasty media, and conveniently ignore the dysfunction in their own family. I guess it must be surreal having an uncle who wrote a diss-song about your dad, having a grandpa who is known the world over for his abusive raising of his children, having an auntie who stripped for Playboy and said terrible things about several family members, including Prince's own father. There has to be an element of compartmentalization going on to survive growing up in that family.
I’m pretty sure they are very aware but publicly they won’t admit anything. Once every blue moon the truth slips out. The Jackson’s were taught media manipulation and ‘public image’ from a young age. It’s ingrained in them. So I don’t expect the truth. But as they say the proof is in the pudding
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