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Post by Snow White on Jul 14, 2018 13:33:34 GMT
^^He didn't speak in that high pitched voice since the mid 80s, some tracks from BAD were recorded in 1986 as well as its short being filmed that year. I sustain my previous statement even more so if people have heard BAD and Smooth Criminal.
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Post by HIStoric on Jul 14, 2018 13:45:49 GMT
^^He didn't speak in that high pitched voice since the mid 80s, some tracks from BAD were recorded in 1986 as well as its short being filmed that year. I sustain my previous statement even more so if people have heard BAD and Smooth Criminal. Oh for sure, but it's a popular caricature of him that's stayed long in people's minds. See basically every comedian's impression of him ever. |
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Post by respect77 on Jul 14, 2018 16:39:55 GMT
Somehow a convicted murderer which was disbarred as a doctor is more credible than Michael's own evolution as a singer. He "sounded so much like a castrato" that he sang in a more masculine voice ever since the BAD era. I guess it will never stop surprising me how stupidly gullible people are to believe such ridiculous and rehashed nonsense. People are probably fooled because he spent a lot of the 1980s speaking in a higher pitch voice too. I've seen comments before of people being surprised at his voice when they see later interviews of him when he used his lower, natural voice instead - you know, Oprah's interview and so forth. They don't even have to watch later interviews though. Just listen to the Forever, Michael album and tell if MJ's voice didn't go through puberty. LOL. |
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Post by HIStoric on Jul 14, 2018 21:26:31 GMT
See what I always found weird about the complaints is that even if he spoke higher pitch until the Bad era, he never really sung THAT high on his records to me it sounds? Like certainly never like a castrato (for the most part) and like you said, there is a clear night/day difference between the singing of Lil J5 Michael and Thriller Michael.
People say Joseph had chemical castrations be performed on him to retain his voice, and while his voice can go high, it’s never the kind of high you usually hear from a castrato? I’ve always found this rumor puzzling and wonder why other vocalists who can and do sing high pitches rarely get asked the same thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2018 23:21:22 GMT
It is a nonsense rumour that has no creedence. How do you chemically castrate someone? You chop their balls off or knacker them. Michael did not sing in that voice since the early 80s and I can't remember where I read it (Jermaines book?) that the breathy soft voice was all an act for the media and Michael sounded like a real man, not a manthyng.
Amazing how those hot lips gossipers have taken this rumour and run with it - that is the price for relying on TMZ gossip adnd lies. Whats next the story that Joe was pimping Michael out for sex with musical paedophiles when he was 8?
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Post by HIStoric on Jul 14, 2018 23:46:30 GMT
It is a nonsense rumour that has no creedence. How do you chemically castrate someone? You chop their balls off or knacker them.
Chemical castration doesn't actually involve removing any organs: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_castration |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 1:48:38 GMT
Has anyone noticed that every source here has been gossip or tabloid.
Radaronline, Dailymail, Mirror and TMZ - all these sources are gossip filled garbage and none of them have ever had a kind word to say about Michael. I got blasted and lambasted for my thread on the Darwen porter book, yet some of you gleefully post tabloid nonsense and debate its trueness.
None of those sources could I find any direct reference to Michael or anyother child being oiled up for discipline. Nor could I find any truth behind Michael being chemically castrated, they are utterances from a CONVICTED MURDERER and LIAR. Seriously I want exert some Poppa Joe discipline on the nuccas posting and believing this shit.
Yes Joe was a tough ass and of course with Michael he had hit thelottery, but the man did believe in and love his kids.
Nuff said.
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Post by respect77 on Jul 15, 2018 5:16:51 GMT
Has anyone noticed that every source here has been gossip or tabloid.
Radaronline, Dailymail, Mirror and TMZ - all these sources are gossip filled garbage and none of them have ever had a kind word to say about Michael. I got blasted and lambasted for my thread on the Darwen porter book, yet some of you gleefully post tabloid nonsense and debate its trueness.
How many timed does this need to be explained to you? If someone like Tito gives an interview to the Mirror of all papers then we can't help but quote the Mirror to discuss it. It's on Tito that he chose such a publication that's been nothing but absolutely horrible to MJ. But it's obviously not a fake or made-up interview since Tito posted it on his social media. So since Tito owns the interview, it makes it irrelevant if it was published in a tabloid or not - it is obviously a real interview and we are discussing Tito's comments and opinions, not the Mirror's or any tabloid journalist's like Darwin Porter, for example. Maybe you should have read this thread more carefully. That claim comes right from MJ's mouth! Not from TMZ, not from RadarOnline, not from the Mirror or the Dailly Fail. The source was given by the person who brought up that story but apparently you didn't even bother to watch it. No one, absolutely NO ONE in this thread said they believe Murray's nonsense. |
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Post by Vega on Jul 15, 2018 11:05:05 GMT
This castration shit resurfacing reminds me of 2016's "Disturbing kiddie porn collection!!!" slurs. It's always interesting how established, fairly respected news outlets follow the lead of some strange, discredited source (Radar Online for the earlier story, the guy who killed Michael Jackson for this one).
And, of course, it's all been litigated before! This isn't new ground. There isn't a scoop here. Just fishing for clicks it seems, and, of course, defaming the greatest pop star of all time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2018 13:42:10 GMT
Respect - I did and I must have gone death in my old age, because there is nothing about oiling anyone up. Perhaps you can tell me the exact time, between the Mirror subtitles and the shit in Greek, you can't hear anything.
That is about what it is, some muddy video that had been reblogged and translated into dozens of bizarre foreign languages. I sriously question how any body who posts such crap could call themselves a Jackson fan.
PS - Respect 77 Stop interacting with me, because I really don't like you or anything you have to say.
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Post by HIStoric on Jul 15, 2018 14:03:08 GMT
Respect - I did and I must have gone death in my old age, because there is nothing about oiling anyone up. Perhaps you can tell me the exact time, between the Mirror subtitles and the shit in Greek, you can't hear anything. From 0:32 onwards:
Umm, he'd make you strip nude first ... he'd oil you down, in a whole ritual, he'd oil you down ... so when the flip of the, um, ironing cord hit you it would just *h-whip*, y'know?
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Post by respect77 on Jul 15, 2018 14:04:21 GMT
Respect - I did and I must have gone death in my old age, because there is nothing about oiling anyone up. Perhaps you can tell me the exact time, between the Mirror subtitles and the shit in Greek, you can't hear anything.
That is about what it is, some muddy video that had been reblogged and translated into dozens of bizarre foreign languages. I sriously question how any body who posts such crap could call themselves a Jackson fan.
PS - Respect 77 Stop interacting with me, because I really don't like you or anything you have to say. LMAO, so you are not willing to listen to a one and a half minutes video, rather you spend a lot more time with bashing and trashing people here for supposedly taking that from tabloids, when it is right there in front of your eyes that is MJ himself who said that? And it is not in any "bizarre foreign language" either, it is in English. Michael speaking in his own mother tongue, you know. Only the subtitles are in Greek. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 1:17:40 GMT
2 things about that video.
1. Michael had been brianwashed by the Rabbi (Who was like 30 at the time, how the fuck can he be a rabbi that young) and was being coerced to say that shit.
2. It is an impersonator sounding like Michael reading rubbish.
Joseph was abusive but I doubt he oiled up kids or tried to kill them. Do you really think Katherine could sit or stand idly by, while her kids are dripping in oil waiting to whipped to near death by Joe, also oil costs money and even today 2 litres (Sorry i don't live in America, so all you stone age measuremnets people need to translate) costs like $9, so how can an impoverished Black family, buy gallons of oil for child sex and physical abuse rituals. Michael could have an active imagination being childlike and was easily impressionable.
The Rabbi Schmuley (If ever a name screamed derivative) brainwashed and mind raped Michael for 2 years and probably got Uri Geller to hypnotise his ass into saying that shit (There are no other reports of him going on about oil abuse)and given the sick and depraved minds of these two (Geller and Boteach) I am not surprised they ahd Michael saying things like that. Do you guys honestly trust Schmuley Boteach, I don't, he was another maggot and parasite feeding on a vulnerable and extremely naive musical legend. He joins the pantheon of such characters as Arnold Klein, Michael Schaffer, Debbie Rowe and Evan Chandler. The bright amongst you will see the connection, and once Michael turned back to the right path, the shit died down. After the trial Michael had enough intelligence to stay away from those types of people.
I do believe Joseph abused and exploited his kids though and used Psychological along with Physical abuse. He had a horrible temper and yes the kids were a troop of performing seals. I would even call him sadistic, but at the same time he was just a simple man who did not know any better. Joe had hit the lottery by having Michael as a son, but as a businessman Joe was useless. Things like Joe Cola and Ivory Tower Records were so laughable they went nowhere, but making his kids move to Epic and encourage to write their own music was his one BOSS move.
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Post by kremlinshadow on Jul 16, 2018 2:31:52 GMT
2 things about that video.
1. Michael had been brianwashed by the Rabbi (Who was like 30 at the time, how the fuck can he be a rabbi that young) and was being coerced to say that shit.
2. It is an impersonator sounding like Michael reading rubbish.
Come on now Scorp (assuming from the org and style of post), that's pretty far reaching. It's quite obviously him, you only have to search online a minute to find other videos of him telling truths he wouldn't usually in 'private'. Joe was one seriously sadistic man and wherever he is he's frying for what he did. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2018 4:01:09 GMT
I am not Scorp and I have not been on the prince.org for 3 months.
Also this is your first post and you have not even passed the troll test yet. We should have a rule that all new members introduce themselves before attacking established original members.
We don't call newbies "Speechless" for nothing.
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